BIC, I have dealt with John 6:29. For you to assert that I did not is a falsehood.
John 1:13 does not apply, we both agree we are born again by the will of God. Where we differ is I say God wills or purposes to save believers just as Jesus said in John 3:16.
Acts 16:30-31 supports my view.
John 14:6 says what I say, Jesus is the way and few are those that find the way. The verse does not support your position.
1 Corinthians 12:12-13 - you made reference to it, but I do not see how it applies. Why do you post references that make no point? We are in Christ by God's doing. God spiritually baptizes use into Christ. This is not in dispute.
BIC, I have dealt with John 6:29. For you to assert that I did not is a falsehood.
John 1:13 does not apply, we both agree we are born again by the will of God. Where we differ is I say God wills or purposes to save believers just as Jesus said in John 3:16.
Acts 16:30-31 supports my view.
John 14:6 says what I say, Jesus is the way and few are those that find the way. The verse does not support your position.
1 Corinthians 12:12-13 - you made reference to it, but I do not see how it applies. Why do you post references that make no point? We are in Christ by God's doing. God spiritually baptizes use into Christ. This is not in dispute.
van position ...man has ability to take the gift or refuse the gift .....
if this was so man would be able to glory which is wrong according to scripture in romans 4:2, 1 cor 1:26-29
BIC, I have dealt with John 6:29. For you to assert that I did not is a falsehood.
please quote yourself then
John 1:13 does not apply, we both agree we are born again by the will of God. Where we differ is I say God wills or purposes to save believers just as Jesus said in John 3:16.
john 1:5, matt 13:36-43
Acts 16:30-31 supports my view.
john 1:5, matt 13:36-43
John 14:6 says what I say, Jesus is the way and few are those that find the way. The verse does not support your position.
John 1:5, matt 13:36-43
1 Corinthians 12:12-13 - you made reference to it, but I do not see how it applies. Why do you post references that make no point? We are in Christ by God's doing. God spiritually baptizes use into Christ. This is not in dispute.
exactly there are people who believe in vain that God does not put in the body.1 cor 15:2, matt 7:21-23.............why
Paul says in answer to the question, what must I do to be saved, is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore the Bible says we are to believe, it is ok, it does not violate God's rules. This whole argument that we cannot believe based on our automous action because we could then boast is bogus. God gives us the information upon which we believe and we could not believe if God had not revealed Himself. You make the absurd argument God must reveal himself supernaturally then when we believe it is not a work, but if God reveals himself through the gospel, which is what the Bible teaches, then that cannot be right. Twaddle.
BIC since I have addressed John 6:29, there is no need for me to quote myself. If you think I did not, you sir are wrong. There is nothing more I can say.
This whole argument that we cannot believe based on our automous action because we could then boast is bogus. God gives us the information upon which we believe and we could not believe if God had not revealed Himself. You make the absurd argument God must reveal himself supernaturally then when we believe it is not a work, but if God reveals himself through the gospel. .
Ok God reveals himself to the Chorazin, Bethsaide, Tyre and sidonthey did not believe But Jesus says in verse that if Sodom would have seen this revelation they would have remained until this day... Matt 11:21-24
God knew what they need to be saved...Yet decided against this since the Father chose them for destruction Romans 9:21-22...
God do not need to supernaturally when we believe....
The Father has planted His seed in spirit in His chosen ones 1 john 3:9,eph 1:4, rev 17:8
They start to Grow when the Holy Spirit gets satan out of the way and convicts us....2 thes 2:1-12 restaining, John 16:7-11 reproving
When we agree that Christ is are savior who died for are sins and is alive to day the HS puts us in Christ....1 cor 12:13
people do believe but with out God's help they are believing in Vain.....
1 cor 15:2,17 matt 7:21-23, romans 10:3
The real question is "On what basis does God select folks for salvation?" And the answer from scripture is those who place their faith in God and His Christ. He selects folks who are poor in worldly treasures but rich in faith. He selects folks who believe. Paul put it this way, "Believe in Jesus Christ!" Peter exhorted folks to believe and be saved.
Jesus said, Your faith has saved you, see Luke 7:50. Case closed.
The real question is "On what basis does God select folks for salvation?" .
2 tim 1:9 who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.
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