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Old 11th June 2002, 07:16 PM
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What evidence is there that creation is impossible?

This thread is for the enjoyment of those who have nothing to do but waste time, but are tired of doing it in the "can you prove macroevolution is impossible?" and other similar but also pointless challenges. Now that I've created this thread, I hope you will be courteous and refrain from saying anything about the possibility or even the feasibility of creation in other threads. If you want to say anything about whether or not creation is possible, please save your pointless comments for this tread, where you can stay on topic. If this fills up, I'll start another thread on feasibility, since there's a difference between possibility and feasibility and the two should be treated separately.
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Old 11th June 2002, 07:20 PM
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I'm still waiting for those darn skeptics to disprove a religion that I wrote known as donkeyism. So far it's held its own, so perhaps I'm the world's next religious leader.

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Old 11th June 2002, 07:28 PM
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Why is it that challenges creationists make to evolutionists (e.g. "Achaeopteryx") are valid but challenges from evolutionists to creationists are pointless?

I'd be happy to discuss your challenge, NP, but first you need to define what you mean by "creation".

When were the living species created?
Was there one creation event or many?
What was created at each event?
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You go Nick!

Yes I dare all of you to prove that a giant pink supernatural unicorn named BOB didn't just make the world by excramental procces caused by grazing on stars.
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Old 11th June 2002, 08:01 PM
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Nick, don't forget your cousins out there have suggested that macroevolution is impossible. If you admit to its possibility, then there is no need for you to provide the mechanism that makes it impossible.

For the record, I admit to the possibility that a supernatural agent created the universe and life, including human life.

I even admit to the fact that this does not require that supernatural agent refrain from employing evolution as a tool toward those ends.

This being a science thread, and supernatural causes not being scientific considerations, I doubt I will comment further on this thread.
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Nothing! As you are well aware, there's no way to show that the world was not created last Tuesday. This belief is logically equivalent to the 6000 year number.
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Originally posted by LewisWildermuth
You go Nick!

Yes I dare all of you to prove that a giant pink supernatural unicorn named BOB didn't just make the world by excramental procces caused by grazing on stars.
You fundamentalists are all alike. Everyone knows it's just allegory. BOB is green, not pink.
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Wow. I thought Nick was just being difficult for fun. Now I think he really has no clue how logic & reason work.

Now that I've created this thread, I hope you will be courteous and refrain from saying anything about the possibility or even the feasibility of creation in other threads.
Because this thread is on a certain topic, we shouldn't discuss the topic in other threads when applicable? Please tell me you're not this obtuse, Nick. Please tell me you're just wasting your time for lack of anything better to do.
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As you are well aware, there's no way to show that the world was not created last Tuesday.
As SPECIFICALLY stated in the scriptures of donkeyism! You see, we are all in the donkey's god-dream as he orbits around Neptune, pummeled by the rays of the fire-demon (the sun). He fell asleep last Tuesday and created a .doc file on my computer as a vessel for conveying his divine wisdom to humankind*.

All hail the IRRIFUTABLE metaphysical donkey! Repent from your fire-demon loving ways!

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*or a mean-spirited dig about me having too much spare time.
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Nick,

Your challenge is red herring unless you can provide us with a testable defination of "creation" or even a rigorous one.
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