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Old 7th June 2002, 11:26 AM
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Communist Goals (1963)

Congressional Record--Appendix, January 10, 1963

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
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Re: Communist Goals (1963)

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Congressional Record--Appendix, January 10, 1963
Communism has been completely discredited as a viable ideological and economic system.

Islam is a far greater threat to Western society now.
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Re: Re: Communist Goals (1963)

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Communism has been completely discredited as a viable ideological and economic system.

Islam is a far greater threat to Western society now.
I see this as not a threat of Communism, or Islam or any one thing in particular.

I see this as a list of steps required to Destroy America. I see this a process to make America a weak nation.
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I would say a couple of those are very good ideas (ie. #'s 5, 7, 44), but most would generally be regarded as bad.
Just a question though: are these actual communist goals from that time? It says that they were excerpted by an "ardent and articulate opponent of communism". One has to question what bias might be present in the excerpt.
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Re: Communist Goals (1963)

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At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
OK. One thing I'd like to point out to be fair.

"The Naked Communist" was written by a Communist conspiracy theorist, so it is very likely that these "communist goals" were fabricated by him.

Accepting this list as legitimate would be like judging Islam based solely on a book written by Pat Robertson.

Please make sure that your Bull detector is always on and working properly.

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It wouldn't be the first time someone reprinted a pack of lies as "truth" because it was in a book.
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It wouldn't be the first time someone reprinted a pack of lies as "truth" because it was in a book.
What are you trying to say?
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I'm saying that I don't believe that this is a realistic claim about communism, any more than I believe, say, that the Malleus Maleficarum was a true and accurate account of things that people really did.

Not all books are false, but some are. Books written out of hatred, contempt, or a desire to "expose" are often false.
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…and of course part of the original point behind these accusaions was to undermine the credibility of the political opposition. It's just a contuation of McCarthy's agenda, an attempt to use an outside enemy as leverage aginst internal opponents. The real slander behind such lists is not directed against foreign communist governments; it is directed against those Americans who sincerely believe in some of the goals attributed to communists. The list was a dirty trick in 1963, and it is now.
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Y'know, it just occurred to me that a sufficiently paranoid person could have interpreted my comment about a "pack of lies" being accepted just because it was in a book as referring to a religious text. I had nothing of the sort in mind, but it occurs to me that one could read the post that way.

I was talking more about the endless books written trying to make every group in the world look bad at one point or another, ranging from Kitty Kelly biographies of people she doesn't like, to books about the "truth" of communism, catholicism, democrats, republicans, rock musicians, and so on. Most such books are nonsense.

Brimshack, I believe you've summarized it excellently. There is virtually no way to attack a belief so effective as to attribute it to people one doesn't like; thus, the frequent allegations that "Hitler supported gun control".
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