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6th June 2002, 10:52 AM
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Something I have noticed among the preterists, is a pattern that goes like this:
I once was a futurist, I studied Revelations, I began to shout, noone wanted to hear me, I became frustrated, I did not understand, I gave up on my first belief, and became a preterist.
Where is your patience?
Watchers?
Come back to your first love, which was grasping the understanding of prophecy.
We are almost there,
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6th June 2002, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Wildfire
Something I have noticed among the preterists, is a pattern that goes like this:
I once was a futurist, I studied Revelations, I began to shout, noone wanted to hear me, I became frustrated, I did not understand, I gave up on my first belief, and became a preterist.
Where is your patience?
Watchers?
Come back to your first love, which was grasping the understanding of prophecy.
We are almost there,
Wildfire
G'day Wildfire 
That maybe your understanding, or how you're reading things -and that's ok, however the only thing I personally can agree with from what you've said is:
Don't tell me you're missing us already! 
davo
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6th June 2002, 11:09 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but I'm still new to all this. What is a Preterist? I would appreciate it if someone would help me understand this.
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6th June 2002, 11:25 AM
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I was frustrated...not because it wasn't happening, but because it didn't make sense...it didn't add up...sure the failed predictions make you wonder, but that was the least of what brought me to where I am now...thanks for caring, but I'll never return to the wholy futurist viewpoint...and I'm on my way to a wholly preterist viewpoint...don't know for sure, if I'll ever get there, but I'm on my way...
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6th June 2002, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by davo
Don't tell me you're missing us already!
davo
That was my first thought Davo, when reading the thread title. I thought that Wildfire was going to give an impassioned plea for us Pret's to "come back" to the eschatology forum 'cause it's sooo boring there without us!
oh well, A guy can dream can't he?
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6th June 2002, 11:31 AM
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Where, in any of our testimonies, can you find concepts of " no one hearing us", or " not understanding", let alone " giving up"? I have seen nothing of the sort in the testimonies presented here, and it certainly was not in my testimony.
The real pattern is this: we studied the scripture, we realized that some of what we believed was not supported by the scriptures, we took a great deal of time, prayer, and study to make sure that those new beliefs were true, and then we "gave up" what we realized was wrong. Now that is the real pattern.
I have plenty of patience - that's why I did not accept preterism at the drop of a hat, on a whim and a prayer, and that's why I still struggle to make sure my understanding of prophecy is in line with God's Word. That's perseverance, my friend. My first love is Jesus, not prophecy.
Hey Azrael! A Batman fan, perhaps? Anyway, a preterist is someone that believes in preterism; preterism is the end-time view that all or almost all end-time prophecies in the Bible were fulfilled by 70AD. Some of the scripture evidence that we believe upholds this view can be found here. http://www.liberty.edu/courses/theo250/preterism.html
Please feel free to ask us any questions you want!
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6th June 2002, 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Wildfire
Something I have noticed among the preterists, is a pattern that goes like this:
I once was a futurist, I studied Revelations, I began to shout, noone wanted to hear me, I became frustrated, I did not understand, I gave up on my first belief, and became a preterist.
Where is your patience?
Watchers?
Come back to your first love, which was grasping the understanding of prophecy.
We are almost there,
Wildfire
Hi Wildfire, Thanks for touching base with us, we miss you too!
If I may, I' have re-arranged your post to reflect, at least my version of your "timeline". Here goes:
Something I have noticed among the preterists, is a pattern that goes like this:
I once was a futurist, then I decided to actually study Revelation, and the rest of the Bible, I began to shout, the right people heard me, I became vindicated, I finally understood, I gave up on my unscriptural futurist belief, and became a preterist.
I came home to my first love, scripture. I now, finally, am grasping the true understanding of prophecy.
We are already there!
P70
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6th June 2002, 11:40 AM
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Wildfire...
I was frustrated...not because it wasn't happening, but because it didn't make sense...it didn't add up...sure the failed predictions make you wonder, but that was the least of what brought me to where I am now...thanks for caring, but I'll never return to the wholy futurist viewpoint...and I'm on my way to a wholly preterist viewpoint...don't know for sure, if I'll ever get there, but I'm on my way...
What "failed prdictions" are you referring to?
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6th June 2002, 11:49 AM
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Reps: 23 (power: 0) | | jenlu, I found this link to be very helpful. I hope you take some time to read through it.
(2) is an excellent start. http://www.ucg.org/search/search.cgi...=60&IMAGE.y=36
Wildfire
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6th June 2002, 12:00 PM
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Reps: 11 (power: 0) | | | Mandy, I don't mean to sound crase(sp), but how long have you been into dispensationalism...go back about 10-20 years and you'll find failed prediction after failed prediction(Ever heard of Hal Lindsey)not to mention the past 2000 years...I would suggest studying up on how many times the call for the end has come and gone...the reason it doesn't work is because Revelations is not a book of predictions...it's a covenant lawsuit with Israel...but
like I said in my post, the failed predictions had little to do with why I am where I am...figuring out it was a covenant lawsuit was huge though...
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