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View Poll Results: Does the idea of being descended from earlier primates make you uncomfortable? | |
I'm an evolutionist and I'm comfortable with the idea
|    | 87 | 89.69% | |
I'm an evolutionist and I'm NOT comfortable with the idea
|    | 2 | 2.06% | |
I'm a creationist and I'm comfortable with the idea
|    | 1 | 1.03% | |
I'm a creationist and I'm NOT comfortable with the idea
|    | 7 | 7.22% |  | | 
11th April 2005, 05:20 PM
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Reps: 726,161,748,620 (power: 726,161,764) | | | Does being descended from earlier primates make you uncomfortable? One of the sticking points in the whole creationism/evolution debate is the simple idea that humans are descended from earlier primates and share a common ancestor with other primates. Many of the reactions I've noticed from creationists towards evolution seem predicated on this idea. In short, they don't like it.
Therefore, I'd like to ask, for creationists and evolutionists, does the idea of being descended from an earlier primate make you feel uncomfortable?
Note: For the purposes of this poll, creationist is defined as to include Young Earth creationists, Old Earth creationists, and any variant thereof. In short, if you believe in the special creation of humankind, you're a creationist.
Evolutionist includes anyone (Christian, atheist, whoever) who accepts the theory of evolution (in principal) including the evolution of the human species from earlier primates.
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Last edited by Pete Harcoff; 11th April 2005 at 05:35 PM.
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11th April 2005, 05:32 PM
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The whole proccess of formation of earth, the slow million of years of evolution, the way everything slowly matched on the several isolated fauna and flora systems and how they all get together to make this planet flow with life... The fact that everything slowly evolved for incontable eras...
That makes me admire God even more.
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11th April 2005, 05:34 PM
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How should a descendence from early primates top make me ashamed?
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11th April 2005, 05:36 PM
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Reps: 2,494 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
Therefore, I'd like to ask, for creationists and evolutionists, does the idea of being descended from an earlier primate make you feel uncomfortable?
Given that the fossil evidence is unconvincing, I find the idea uncomfortable.
The Homo erectus skull and body size are within the range of modern human variation. Neandertal was merely a sub-species of Homo sapian.
Homo habilis is a grouping of unrelated fossil bones. Australopithecus is merely an extinct species of ape.
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11th April 2005, 05:41 PM
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Reps: 13,290 (power: 26) | | Originally Posted by Matthew777 Given that the fossil evidence is unconvincing, I find the idea uncomfortable.
The Homo erectus skull and body size are within the range of modern human variation. Neandertal was merely a sub-species of Homo sapian.
Homo habilis is a grouping of unrelated fossil bones. Australopithecus is merely an extinct species of ape.
May peace be upon thee and with thy spirit. he said, conveniently ignoring genetics.
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11th April 2005, 05:43 PM
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11th April 2005, 05:45 PM
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Like how evolutionists ignore genetics to rule out design?
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11th April 2005, 05:47 PM
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Reps: 13,290 (power: 26) | | Originally Posted by Matthew777 Like how evolutionists ignore genetics to rule out design?
May peace be upon thee and with thy spirit. No. Where did I or anyone ever deny that the universe is designed, that life is designed?
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11th April 2005, 05:50 PM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff Does being descended from earlier primates make you uncomfortable?
I think I maybe uncomfortable if I was decended from a frog or something like that. I don't think of myself as being the prince type. | 
11th April 2005, 05:53 PM
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