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3rd May 2004, 01:35 AM
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8th May 2004, 11:32 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,855,660 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by hisbloodformysins I've been unhappy for 5 years, and yes, probably would have done it sooner if I had more support. My hubby is also a good man and my in-laws would mourn.
But let me give you advice based on my own personal convictions and experiance. I think taking Desi's advice would be very bad. Meaning, if you tried to control her actions by giving no support, for crying out loud, you are her mother.
A woman divorcing a "good man" or even a bad man is contrary to what my Bible says about Jesus's stance on divorce, which was 'a man can divorce a wife for fornication if he wants to'. Its not a question of control so much as a choice of acting based on what Jesus says or what is 'easier' at the time. Chastising an adult child must be hard but if they are wrong what are you left to do? I have four terrific daughters and rue the day they tell me they are considering divorcing/leaving their husbands. I hope I have the strength, from God, to do what is right. Early in my marriage my wife considered divorcing me, yes good ole desi, her family suggested she wait things out and did not offer to take her in. This August we will celebrate our 10th year anniversary. If her family had giver her a way out years ago... who knows? By the way my oldest daughter, 9, passed her black belt test today! Originally Posted by hisbloodformysins But of course, you need to pray and really follow what you believe God is leading you to do in your heart. Good luck. God Bless.
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9th May 2004, 01:25 AM
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12th May 2004, 12:49 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,855,660 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by oldrooster Cheating is different, it wipes out trust to the core. After the first time I forgave her, after the 3rd she got booted out. As far as this issue goes, I despise cheaters from the depth of my heart. Even Jesus realized this.
Yes, he did recognize cheaters. He also recognized the differences between men and women and why divorce should be afforded to one sex and not the other. If you look at which sex initiates most divorces you will too. |
12th May 2004, 10:58 AM
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Reps: 1,763 (power: 11) | | | ^^ Interesting Desi. I've never heard anyone says that (I assume it's men you mean here) that men are the only ones allow to initiate divorce. I'm a bit skeptical of that interpretation. Can you give some more info on that?
I imagine you will respond by quoting Scripture with verses that make note of the pronouns being used, he vs she, man vs woman, sort of thing. But if that rule is kept constant throughout the Bible, then only Men would fall under judgement and only Men would receive salvation because most often it is the male pronouns that are used. Maybe you can clarrify more about your statement. |
13th May 2004, 12:32 AM
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Reps: 19,176,694,774,429 (power: 19,176,694,798) | | Originally Posted by desi Yes, he did recognize cheaters. He also recognized the differences between men and women and why divorce should be afforded to one sex and not the other. If you look at which sex initiates most divorces you will too.
Unfortunatly nowadays, divorce is no respecter of gender. It is about even today, or even leaning more tword women...
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13th May 2004, 01:39 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,855,660 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by oldrooster , or even leaning more tword women...
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13th May 2004, 01:43 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,855,660 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by GirlieGirl ^^ Interesting Desi. I've never heard anyone says that (I assume it's men you mean here) that men are the only ones allow to initiate divorce. I'm a bit skeptical of that interpretation. Can you give some more info on that?
I imagine you will respond by quoting Scripture with verses that make note of the pronouns being used, he vs she, man vs woman, sort of thing. But if that rule is kept constant throughout the Bible, then only Men would fall under judgement and only Men would receive salvation because most often it is the male pronouns that are used. Maybe you can clarrify more about your statement.
This is going to get me hated by some... but here we go again... God gives women and men DIFFERENT rules to follow. The Bible is clear as a bell in this area. Much of this is in Genesis where it basically tells women 'obey your husbands.' It also tells husband to 'love your wife.' There are many other areas where the differences are clearly delineated between the sexes. We are judged based on what we do or fail to do. If your spouse fails Biblically it is no license for you to do likewise and vice versa. |
26th May 2004, 01:15 AM
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Reps: 143,964 (power: 175) | | | no wonder you have almost 6 kids at 28, you've been making your wife pop em out since you were 19! the thing is, times have changed. i dont think god would want anyone to be in a marriage where they are getting beaten and fearing for their life and for their childrens life. so divorce wasnt an option for your marriage and thats great. i am really glad you worked it out. but sometimes there is no way to bring any glory to god in a dysfunctional marriage. and shouldnt bringing glory to his name be our first concern instead of a marriage that wont follow us to the next life?
anyway to the op. i pray your daughter is able to work things out the way god has planned for her life- be it with or without her husband. people make mistakes. but thankfully God already took care of that on the cross. be supportive of her. that doesn't mean you have to agree with what she does. but let her know you love her and will always be her mama. because sometimes, when a girl is going through a rough time- that is all that will make you feel better.
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30th May 2004, 11:10 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,855,660 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by BigToe no wonder you have almost 6 kids at 28, you've been making your wife pop em out since you were 19! the thing is, times have changed. i dont think god would want anyone to be in a marriage where they are getting beaten and fearing for their life and for their childrens life. so divorce wasnt an option for your marriage and thats great. i am really glad you worked it out.
What you think and Gods own word seem to be very different. Guess which one I put more stock in? Originally Posted by BigToe but sometimes there is no way to bring any glory to god in a dysfunctional marriage. and shouldnt bringing glory to his name be our first concern instead of a marriage that wont follow us to the next life?
You are speaking of something addressed in the Bible but you are not paying heed to what the Bible says about it. What does that say about your advice? If you trust God, trust his word; if not, stop wasting time. | | |
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