The second coming of christ: about the third anti-christ

cisco · #1 17th April 2004, 11:38 AM

First of the Bible/Jesus/Nostradamus states certain events that will triger the days to the second coming, such as famin, plagues, etc.
One of the things Cisco will point out is the prediction of certain figures.

The False Prophets, and the 3 Anti-christs

The False Prophets : Said to be men/man/women that will blaspheme and battle with the word of God. Preaching to the world lies that will
convince them that God is fake, hense preparing the road for the third false Jesus. Numerous passages in the bible states that the Anti-christ will come before the 3 anti-christ, and will preach false testimonies.
Well their HAS BEEN such preaching, The false prophets have been in this world even before the birth of your grandparents.
And those false prophets can be identified as SCIENTISTS.
I mean think of it! Bible says creation-Science says evolution, etc.
Science is the only thing that dismisses the word of God and minipulate people from making them think the Bible/God is a hoax or a form of the human imagination.

3 Anti-Christs
One of Nostra's predictions include the rise of false messiahs, Tyrant leaders, or what Jesus calls them Anti-christs. It was said that their will be three of them somewhere in the bible.
Did you know that the world already bore the two anti-christs?
1.) Napoleon Bonaparte

2.) Aldof Hitler
We are currently waiting for the third one. His personallity was already givin -the false prophets will build the road for the comming of the anti-christ- and his persona wouldn't be a violent/hatefull dictator like Hitler, but morely Exactly like Jesus (persay).

Now what does this mean? How can that be the last anti-christ? "I mean if we see someone in the news claiming that he is the messiah, then that must mean he is the 3 anti-christ". I doubt it would be like that. Remember that this guy (anti-christ) will build a religion just like Jesus, his comming will be fortold (by false prophets) just like Jesus, looked up to Just like Jesus, and someone who can turn the people away from Jesus and any other religion.

It may sound dumb...but the third anti-christ is probably
ALIENS. Think of it, that is the only thing science needs to discover to prove that religions are false. If an alien from another world shows up than the belief of God/Jesus has been destroyed. False prophets/Scientists are allreasy preaching this stuff and some parts of the world believe it.
UFO's have been appearing through out centuries, and everytime their is an
uproar...the belief of God lowers at some percent.
Since God said we are the only ones that are superior of his creation, etc. Any news of aliens will make the Bible/God a hoax.

Nostra - said that the 3rd anti christ will
come from the skies "the great king of terror in
1999". Well in 1999 their has been a very
compelling and convincing story of a UFO
sighting... and it was still debated by science,
but nevertheless convincing.

O YA: Did you know that a UFO's radius is .666?

And i know this is sad, Christanity and any religion is really falling in population thats a fact. People are starting to get skeptical due to science and some things in the media. And we all know the stories concerning the Catholic priests -And Catholicism is the oldest in the christianity sect, and one of the predictions was the fall of the Roman Catholic church will happen before or during the reign of the last Anti-chirst-.

The Aliens will come when the humans don't believe in religion any more. The world will literally be bull, we've ran out of resources, we need a God who will help us.
According to the prophecies @ Fatima in the early 1900s the end of the world will start when this event happens:people will kill this pope/bishop-like figure with hailing arrows and bullets. What does this
prove!?

-Overpopulation. Why use arrows? because the
earth is so damn poor and overused that we can't
even afford to make guns. People are tired of
worshiping a God that does not help them so they
kill the pope so that God, if there is one will
come and help the world out.
I heard along time ago, that The pope was
almost shot to death. I forgot when though.
Another prophecie says that the last signs will
be constant after the death of the last 3 popes.
Also, and this is fact! In the bible or bible
code (forgot w/c), it said that the last pope
would suffer a certain illness that makes him
have little control of his body movements...

Pope John Paul has what disease again?

Aggie · #2 17th April 2004, 11:56 AM

Is this a joke? I really hope this is a joke.

Numerous passages in the bible states that the Anti-christ will come before the 3 anti-christ, and will preach false testimonies.

OK, so was Napoleon the anti-christ who comes before the 3 anti-chirsts? I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Stalin as one of the three anti-christs who come after the anti-christ. If Hitler is the second, how about Kent Hovind is the third?

And those false prophets can be identified as SCIENTISTS.
I mean think of it! Bible says creation-Science says evolution, etc.

Kent Hovind is a much better candidate for being a false prophet than B. B. Warfield.

O YA: Did you know that a UFO's radius is .666?

.666 WHAT? Inches? I didn't realize they were so small.

Did you take a take a ruler to one and measure it, or are you making up your own evidence like Kent Hovind does?

It may sound dumb...but the third anti-christ is probably
ALIENS. Think of it, that is the only thing science needs to discover to prove that religions are false.

Well, I suppose if evolution disproves the existence of a god, then so do aliens. And atoms... atoms aren't mentioned in the Bible either, are they?

Have you read Out of the Silent Planet by C. S. Lewis? You should read that in addition to whatever you can find about B. B. Warfield.

Creationism is a big mafia in worldwide. Read books please.

ThePhoenix · #3 17th April 2004, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by cisco

It may sound dumb...

No kidding?

cisco · #4 17th April 2004, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Aggie

Is this a joke? I really hope this is a joke.

OK, so was Napoleon the anti-christ who comes before the 3 anti-chirsts? I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Stalin as one of the three anti-christs who come after the anti-christ. If Hitler is the second, how about Kent Hovind is the third?

I'm talking about well known people, real influential people that made an impact to the people/history as Jesus. That is why they have the title ANTI-CHRIST. So this throws your kent hovind out the window.

Kent Hovind is a much better candidate for being a false prophet than B. B. Warfield.

What brings that logic up? Scientists (any mentioned) have made facts that bash the bible and the word of God. They experiment and bring convincing hypothesis on it.

.666 WHAT? Inches? I didn't realize they were so small.

.666 i wasn't talking about inches i was talking about circles in general.

Well, I suppose if evolution disproves the existence of a god, then so do aliens. And atoms... atoms aren't mentioned in the Bible either, are they?

Have you read Out of the Silent Planet by C. S. Lewis? You should read that in addition to whatever you can find about B. B. Warfield.

Creationism is a big mafia in worldwide. Read books please.

have you read the bible and some science books? Scientists say we started from apes, God says from Adam + Eve.

troodon · #5 17th April 2004, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by cisco

.666 i wasn't talking about inches i was talking about circles in general.

No, you're not.

Aggie · #6 17th April 2004, 03:02 PM

I'm not sure if I should bother keeping at this, but hopefully the lurkers here will find it amusing.

I'm talking about well known people, real influential people that made an impact to the people/history as Jesus. That is why they have the title ANTI-CHRIST. So this throws your kent hovind out the window.

Hitler didn't think he was Jesus, and I don't think Napoleon did either. Certainly none of the scientists I know do. I don't, and neither does the Christian paleontologist who's the curator of the museum where I work.

What brings that logic up? Scientists (any mentioned) have made facts that bash the bible and the word of God. They experiment and bring convincing hypothesis on it.

Don't you realize that Kent Hovind is probably the most widely-known false teacher alive today? Even other creationists hate him for the way he makes Christians look like such dishonest idiots. Here's a quote about him from Answers in Genesis:

When an attempted critique of this AiG article appeared on Kent Hovind’s Web site, AiG was somewhat surprised (and disappointed) to note that it frequently and significantly misrepresents and/or misunderstands the statements and positions made in our carefully researched document.

In the interests of maintaining Christian/creationist integrity, we believed we had to respond to Kent Hovind’s critique (albeit with a heavy heart), particularly because of the mistakes in facts and logic which do the creationist cause no good.

You trust Answers in Genesis, don't you?

And as for B. B. Warfield, here's a quote about him from Leadership Christian University:

[Warfield] is the architect of the modern formulations of such doctrines as the inspiration and authority of the Bible, but he did not believe that a literal interpretation of the Bible required a young earth creationist view. On the contrary he was remarkably well read on and respectful of the science of his time. Warfield was a strong defender of evolution, though he believed it was theistically directed. For Warfield theology provides an appropriate foundation for approaching the study of nature that takes natural causes seriously while at the same time viewing them as responding to divine will.

Also, from Southern Presbyterian Review:

One writer, known only as “G. P. D.,” wrote of his three-year experience as a student of Warfield. He said that one man stood out “above all others as a teacher and as a man of God: and that man is Dr. Benjamin Breckinridge Warfield.” Dr. Warfield had taught him to stand “solidly upon the Rock of Ages” and he exemplified an “unswerving loyalty to the Word of God.”

and

J. Gresham Machen, Assistant Professor of New Testament at Princeton, received a letter from LeRoy Gresham, Dr. Machen’s cousin, expressing in his own personal sorrow the sentiments of many regarding the loss of B. B. Warfield:

You may well believe that I was inexpressibly grieved and shocked at the death of Dr. Warfield. Truly there is a prince and a great man fallen this day in Israel. Where shall we ever find his like as a defender of the faith once delivered to the saints? I know what it will mean to you personally, especially at a time when the tendency is to fill our faculties with men who represent a lower ideal of scholarship. It will be hard indeed to fill his place. (Letter dated March 5, 1921)

B. B. Warfield has done more to defend the divine authority of the Bible than anyone else in the past 200 years. Kent Hovind has done more to give Christians a bad reputation than anyone else in my lifetime, although most people don't keep track of who makes Christians look the dumbest. He may have done more to turn people away form Christianity than anyone else in the past 200 years also. I wonder if the harm he's done to Christianity has completely negated everything Warfield did to defend it? It's certainly very close.

.666 i wasn't talking about inches i was talking about circles in general.

OK, so the radius of a UFO is .666 if its diameter is 1.332 and its circumference is 4.1846. What does that prove?

Have you read the bible and some science books? Scientists say we started from apes, God says from Adam + Eve.

Actually, we don't say we're descended from apes as we know them today--humans and apes share a common ancestor about 10 million years ago. 5 million if you're talking about humans and chimpanzees.

I'll leave it to the Christians who accept evolution to explain the rest, if they think it's worthwhile. I don't think I can go to any more trouble to defend the divine authority of the Bible when I don't believe the Bible anyway.

Besides, I wouldn't do as good a job with it as Warfield.

firetemple · #7 17th April 2004, 10:59 PM

This guy lost all credibility as soon as he mentioned aliens. Or was it when he said he implied nostradamus could see into the future for real?

cisco · #8 17th April 2004, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Aggie

I'm not sure if I should bother keeping at this, but hopefully the lurkers here will find it amusing.
Hitler didn't think he was Jesus, and I don't think Napoleon did either. Certainly none of the scientists I know do. I don't, and neither does the Christian paleontologist who's the curator of the museum where I work.

What gives you the conclusion that the anti-christ would come up with the assumption that he is Jesus? Because christ is part of the title? No.
They are called anti-christ because of the influence they will have on people and the impact they will make in history.

Don't you realize that Kent Hovind is probably the most widely-known false teacher alive today? Even other creationists hate him for the way he makes Christians look like such dishonest idiots. Here's a quote about him from Answers in Genesis:

You trust Answers in Genesis, don't you?

And as for B. B. Warfield, here's a quote about him from Leadership Christian University:

B. B. Warfield has done more to defend the divine authority of the Bible than anyone else in the past 200 years. Kent Hovind has done more to give Christians a bad reputation than anyone else in my lifetime, although most people don't keep track of who makes Christians look the dumbest. He may have done more to turn people away form Christianity than anyone else in the past 200 years also. I wonder if the harm he's done to Christianity has completely negated everything Warfield did to defend it? It's certainly very close.

Their are millions of people like that, but i'm taking mostly on the majority scientists that gave hypothesis that dismisses what God said.
Sscientists have been claiming that God is a figure of the imagination, and that the bible isn't all true. They try to bash the 10 plagues, Noahs Arc, the beginning, etc. One man bad mouthing Christianity doesn't label him as a FP, while scientists make conclusions experiments and intelligent debates that leaves the bible in question.

Actually, we don't say we're descended from apes as we know them today--humans and apes share a common ancestor about 10 million years ago. 5 million if you're talking about humans and chimpanzees.

The Bible never says any of that, The Bible says we were made through his image and likeness. Science says, we started as apes and we are relatives

. The Bible says that the first man was Adam, science says the first man was some monkiey lookin dude.

I'll leave it to the Christians who accept evolution to explain the rest, if they think it's worthwhile. I don't think I can go to any more trouble to defend the divine authority of the Bible when I don't believe the Bible anyway.

Besides, I wouldn't do as good a job with it as Warfield

firetemple · #9 17th April 2004, 11:24 PM

"The Bible never says any of that, The Bible says we were made through his image and likeness. Science says, we started as apes and we are relatives

. The Bible says that the first man was Adam, science says the first man was some monkiey lookin dude."
No, science say that man's ancestors were less organized creatures that probably resembled apes.

Please give me a lot of blessings.

Breetai · #10 17th April 2004, 11:40 PM

It was said that their will be three of them(anti-Christs) somewhere in the bible.

No it doesn't. It says that nowhere in the Bible. Absolutely nowhere. Stop perverting the Bible by telling us that it says something when it doesn't.

Romans 16:17
...mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Guess who I'm marking...

Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Nostradamus
In the year 1999 and seven months
The Great King of Terror will come from the sky,
He will bring back to life the great king of Angolmois.
Before and after Mars reigns happily.

Nostradamus was a false prophet.