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Old 17th April 2004, 11:23 AM
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**** Attention Creationists: Please define what a 'KIND' is. ****

I'm fed up of seeing references to the 'kind' concept. What the heck is it? Is it, as I suspect, the ultimate goalpost shifter in a debate.

PLEASE GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF KIND - so I can apply this term when and where I please.

By the way, an example is not a definition. So don't say 'kind' means like a dog is a 'dog kind'.

Please provide me with a cast iron definition that I can use with confidence in other realms of the known flora and fauna.
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A kind is those that can bring forth together.
Hope this helps.
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Old 17th April 2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Jack_Sparrow
I'm fed up of seeing references to the 'kind' concept. What the heck is it? Is it, as I suspect, the ultimate goalpost shifter in a debate.

PLEASE GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF KIND - so I can apply this term when and where I please.

By the way, an example is not a definition. So don't say 'kind' means like a dog is a 'dog kind'.

Please provide me with a cast iron definition that I can use with confidence in other realms of the known flora and fauna.
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Old 17th April 2004, 11:45 AM
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Explain this more - do you mean breed and produce fertile offspring?

(I think you will need to be careful how you answer this!)
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Originally Posted by evolutionbuster
A kind is those that can bring forth together.
Hope this helps.
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Old 17th April 2004, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by evolutionbuster
A kind is those that can bring forth together.
Hope this helps.
Did you actually look over what you had typed and think "yes... this answers his question nicely" ?

That's not gonna do, we want to know...

What defines a Kind?

How many Kinds are there?

Which Kind does the three-toed sloth belong to? The duck billed platypus?

Do the rabbit and fox belong to the same Kind? The gaselle and the donkey? The cat and the lion? The frog and the chameleon?
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Originally Posted by Captain_Jack_Sparrow
Explain this more - do you mean breed and produce fertile offspring?

(I think you will need to be careful how you answer this!)
Yes....that is what it means
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Originally Posted by Ducks
Did you actually look over what you had typed and think "yes... this answers his question nicely" ?

That's not gonna do, we want to know...

What defines a Kind?

How many Kinds are there?

Which Kind does the three-toed sloth belong to? The duck billed platypus?

Do the rabbit and fox belong to the same Kind? The gaselle and the donkey? The cat and the lion? The frog and the chameleon?
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Originally Posted by evolutionbuster
Yes....that is what it means
Scientists please step right up to kick a hole in this definition
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evolutionbuster,

so a horse and a donkey are different kinds - correct?
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