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18th April 2004, 04:46 PM
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Sort of paraphrased from memory: "A kind is two organisms that could *originally* interbreed" Oh, to him, he thinks donkeys, horses, mules, etc. are all the same kind, regardless of whether or not offspring are fertile.
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18th April 2004, 04:48 PM
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Reps: 27,518 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by Dracil Here is Kent Hovind's definition as given when asked this couple weeks ago when he came here.
Sort of paraphrased from memory: "A kind is two organisms that could *originally* interbreed" Oh, to him, he thinks donkeys, horses, mules, etc. are all the same kind, regardless of whether or not offspring are fertile.
Kent Hovind was here? When, where?
I've heard him define "kind" to be all the animals which can successfully interbreed. The fact that he is adding in "originally" is valid as the species would be different when they hopped aboard the ark, but this implicitly acknowledges that evolution does result in speciation (new kinds)! His earlier claims were that the kinds which exist now were the same kinds that were on the ark, and evolution can result in some varieties, but never new kinds. Looks like he's backpeddled from that. Good news, now if only he'd come clean about this revelation.
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19th April 2004, 12:00 AM
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He hasn't quite backpeddled yet. By this new definition, speciation never occured, and even if it did, they're still the same "kind," which he can throw into the big hole called "microevolution."
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19th April 2004, 02:15 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by watcher16 Forgive me because I am stupid, but why does this here differ from the word 'species' as used by Darwin?
because there are an awful lot of species, and an awful lot more extinct species. all the current species only make up about 1% of all the species that ever existed.
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19th April 2004, 04:20 AM
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Reps: 14,196,510,763,452 (power: 14,196,510,774) | | | What difference would it make to say what "kind" means. You certainly would not believe anything that the word of God would have to say. Why waste our time? You'll make up your own meaning of the word. And the way you ask the question from your first post shows your fustration and hate for anyone that would even remotely believe that God created.
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19th April 2004, 04:26 AM
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Reps: 16,712 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by ikester7579 What difference would it make to say what "kind" means. You certainly would not believe anything that the word of God would have to say. Why waste our time? You'll make up your own meaning of the word. And the way you ask the question from your first post shows your fustration and hate for anyone that would even remotely believe that God created.
don't you like your ideas being testable?
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19th April 2004, 04:26 AM
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19th April 2004, 04:27 AM
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19th April 2004, 04:29 AM
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Reps: 14,196,510,763,452 (power: 14,196,510,774) | | Originally Posted by Arikay This has nothing to do with the word of god, it has to do with the word of man, as creationists use kinds in their "science" and thus it needs a definition to mean anything.
And all of a sudden, science becomes more of an expert on Godly things than God himself. Always knew science wants to replace God and his word.:rolleyes:
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