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18th April 2004, 01:25 AM
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18th April 2004, 01:29 AM
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18th April 2004, 02:54 AM
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Reps: 39 (power: 0) | | Definition 2: "Kind" would be best desribed as belonging to the same Genus, Species or Sub-Species.
Um, these three things are very different, it can't be all three at one time. |
18th April 2004, 03:13 AM
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Reps: 2,470 (power: 17) | | Originally Posted by danaman5 Um, these three things are very different, it can't be all three at one time.
Silly boy. Obviously, a "kind" is whatever the argument requires.
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18th April 2004, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by davekinky Adopt head in sand stance
Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....Not gonna happen....
Cos there isn't one
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18th April 2004, 04:09 AM
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Reps: 144 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Aggie All I want is one intelligent, educated, and reasonable creationist to debate with about the origin of birds. Is that really so much to ask?
Yes, all creationists are stupid, illiterate and narrow-minded.
Easy, otherwise they would be evolutionist! So easy in fact that you look not so intelligent, educated and reasonable. You must be a creationist  ! |
18th April 2004, 04:13 AM
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Reps: 144 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Captain_Jack_Sparrow I'm fed up of seeing references to the 'kind' concept. What the heck is it? Is it, as I suspect, the ultimate goalpost shifter in a debate.
PLEASE GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF KIND - so I can apply this term when and where I please.
By the way, an example is not a definition. So don't say 'kind' means like a dog is a 'dog kind'.
Please provide me with a cast iron definition that I can use with confidence in other realms of the known flora and fauna.
Forgive me because I am stupid, but why does this here differ from the word 'species' as used by Darwin? |
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18th April 2004, 02:34 PM
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Reps: 144 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Captain_Jack_Sparrow I am talking about today not 145 years ago.
SPECIES: Definition:- A classification of related organisms that can freely interbreed.
- the largest natural population whose members are able to reproduce successfully among
KIND:
3. Nature; style; character; sort; fashion; manner; variety; description; class; as, there are several kinds of eloquence, of style, and of music; many kinds of government; various kinds of soil, etc. How diversely Love doth his pageants play, And snows his power in variable kinds ! -- Spenser. There is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. -- I Cor. xv. 39. Diogenes was asked in a kind of scorn: What was the matter that philosophers haunted rich men, and not rich men philosophers ? -- Bacon.
{ A kind of}, something belonging to the class of; something like to; -- said loosely or slightingly.
{ In kind}, in the produce or designated commodity itself, as distinguished from its value in money. Tax on tillage was often levied in kind upon corn.
-- Arbuthnot. Syn: Sort; species; class; genus; nature; style; character; breed; set.
As far as I understand interchangeble in this discussion if everybody knows that with 'kind' species is meant?   |
18th April 2004, 02:38 PM
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That is precisely why this discussion occurs. Creationists change 'kind' on a whim. They really use it to argue 2 main topics.
They use it as against speciation being observed and they use it to make the Noah nonsense seem plausible.
But I ask you - are donkeys and horses of the same kind?
Are yaks and cows? Are lions and tigers? | | |
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