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28th February 2005, 11:54 PM
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By the way, is that "Gamecock" as in the South Carolina Gamecock's?
God bless
Why yes it is!
Thanks for your encouragement. While I do more lurking than posting on this board, I always appreciate your posts. I have learned much from you....
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1st March 2005, 07:49 PM
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Reps: 18,456,342,734,325,748 (power: 18,456,342,734,357) | | Praise God, what a great testimony ! Originally Posted by Imblessed Well, let's see....I started to study more when I realized my in-laws who are JW's, had way more "knowledge" about the bible than I did. I decided to see if anything they had to say was true. It all sounded good on the surface, but something wasn't right. I was very uncomfortable with the emphasis they put on "our" part in our salvation, and the fact that none of them will ever really know if they've been good enough. I had always believed that you could lose your salvation, but not by just messing up, or not doing good enough...I had always thought it had to be a deliberate "turning away". Then I realized that that didn't even make sense, and I didn't even truly KNOW what I believed anyway.
I joined CF to talk to the JW's, and debate a little, but they were running circles around me. I knew they were wrong, but I couldn't prove WHY.
I prayed one day for God to show me the truth, to help me to understand what I was reading better, to put in me a desire to learn the Word. It wasn't even a couple of days later that I started exploring the different denominational subsites here, and ran across this room. To be honest, I think the only reason I actually came in here is because my three year old's name is Calvin and it amused me.....LOL
As soon as I started reading what "Calvinists" believe, I knew emmediately that I had stumbled across the truth. I started going to all the sites that Cygnus sent me too, and looking up stuff on my own. I was amazed that all those difficult passages in the bible just opened up. I can't believe how obvious Reformed belief is, and why I never saw it before. Actually, I think maybe I had always known it in my heart, but just didn't know it in my head. I was always very uncomfortable with the image of a God dependent upon our actions, or a God that wasn't completely omniscent or omnipotent. Looking back, I realize that I was never truly taught the deeper things of God. I never wanted to learn. I was a surface christian. I knew I believed, and I trusted that God would look after me, and for a long time, that was enough.
God led me to my present church a little over 2 years ago. I was raised Quaker, but the Quaker church I was going to offered nothing in the way of personal growth. I just wasn't learning anything. So I checked out this church(it's a community church) I love the church and it's focus and reason for being(it's a very outreaching church). But when I accepted the Doctrines of Grace, I was worried. I didn't want to leave but I didn't know what they taught about this, and I was scared to ask. Ignorantly, I assumed that because the focus is so heavy on outreach and evangelism, that they taught the arminian view(I still wasn't sure how Calvinism effected evangelism). I spent some time in prayer, asking God to help me out, to give me strength to confront the leaders and see just what they believed--because if they didn't teach the reformed view, I was going to have to find a church that did, and frankly, I didn't want to leave this church. Again, God answered my prayers. About a month ago, Tim, the pastor, started a series called "Grace" He is now in the middle of the series and he's explaining the Doctrines of Grace very clearly and without apologies. I can only sit back and praise God! Because of course He KNEW I would come to accept the reformed view, and had my church all picked out for me!
I don't even know how to explain the peace and joy I feel now since accepting the Doctrines of Grace. I'm just so happy that God has led me to this place, and I look forward to seeing where He leads me next!!!!!!!!
All praise to God!
__________________ "A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything"
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, and Sola Deo Gloria
A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything" Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | 
1st March 2005, 08:09 PM
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I had been confronted with the scriptures for the 1st time in my life.
So I was sitting in my bathtub and i asked God, who He was and who Jesus was.
I was suddenly overwhelmed with the sure knowledge that I was a terrible sinner and that Christ was my Savior.
I fell on my knees and gave my pathetic life to Christ.
I had never heard a sinners prayer or understood what it meat to be born again.
I often joke now that I remember the next day thinking I needed to joining a Presbyterian church because they believed in Predestination and I KNEW that this was fully the doing of God.
But time passed and I found my way into a mega church near my home.I put the predestination thing out of my mind.I thought that my salvation was just a little different than all my friends that did altar calls.
Time passed and I got a computer and began to post on a large news forum that had a lot of Calvinists posting.
I would see their thread titles as I scrolled by them. i never wanted to get involved in that fight.
I wanted to be "nice" and "loving" and have people tell me how great a Christian I WAS.I wanted nothing to do with those threads.
One day I wandered into a thread on Pelegianism. I did not even know what that was. But it did not take me long to get up to speed.
Before I knew it I was in full battle mode with the "evil Calvinists"
It made me study doctrine and church history... and scripture, lots of scripture.
Even as I was battling them I was hearing and learning the doctrine so I could refute it.
After almost 2 years of the battle the threads ended.
I was a much more knowledgeable Christian as a result of that ongoing debate.
BUT then the Holy Spirit stepped in.
One night as I sat doing my bible study the words jumped off the page at me. i started seriously searching the word. Putting aside my bias and really reading what it said.
I was looking at how God acted with men from the beginning, over and over I saw the sovereignty of God and the election of men.
How could I have been a serious student of the Bible and missed it for all those years.
I told one of the pastors that had participated in the debates that I was now a Calvinist. I knew that I knew. One of them was a physician that had lost hope that i would ever "get it" asked one of the younger posters to talk to me to see if I had indeed gotten it.
That young Orthodox Presbyterian told me he never had a doubt that I would one day become a reformed believer, because I have a love and passion for the word of God. He knew I would see it.
I have often hear that "converts" often have the most passion. I know that is true for me. We have a most gracious God that loved me before the foundation of the world... how amazing is that ??? me ....a real zero.... loved of God
__________________ "A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything"
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, and Sola Deo Gloria
A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything" Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | 
3rd March 2005, 07:04 AM
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Reps: 31,385,817,218,191,664 (power: 31,385,817,218,201) | | | Well it seems that i may well be heading down the Calvinist road, from the little that I know of his teaching (and the more I read the NT, the more I am convinced of these arguments. I am only just beginning to attend a Westminster Presbyterian Church here and boy O boy, the pastor sure does hold up the Bible there. I was led to Christ by a Baptist guy a number of years ago, and for some reason ended up attending a Pentecostal church for a few years before leaving town. Hmm, well after relocating, I attended a small number of churches, but what really put me off, was seeing very self concious efforts by the preachers to present a more entertaining? style of preaching/teaching, which just made me cringe, God Bless them though! So I really like my new church, where the singing is plain and simple and the Bible is held up and taught from in a plain way. I sure hope that the Calvinist view is the same as "the faith that was once delivered to the saints". I believe it may well be! | 
3rd March 2005, 10:31 AM
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Reps: 4,809 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by ksen I was saved in 1992 in a small, rural Baptist church. The pastor there always had bad things to say about Calvinism, so not knowing any better I accepted what he had to say.
In 1998 we moved to a different state and we started attending another Baptist church. The pastor was pretty much the same in his views on Calvinism. Then I started getting involved in the religious discussions on a different forum and I was confronted with the truth of what Calvinism taught and not my own spoon-fed caricature of Calvinism.
I still rejected Calvinism, but now it was willful and not out of ignorance. As time went on and I was confronted with more and more evidence from Scripture as to the Predestination and Election of the Saints and God's Sovereignty over His creation. I didn't have an answer for them.
As the debates raged on I got more and more turned off by the twists and turns that the non-Calvinists had to take in order to explain away what Scripture clearly said.
Finally, I took the plunge and accepted with my heart what my head had already understood: that salvation is indeed of the Lord.
This is extremely similar to mine, except all of the Baptist stuff. It was basically through the work and persistence of the Lord through a few members of this forum. My change to reformed theology is extremely recent.
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3rd March 2005, 03:56 PM
|  | Wiki on Garth! 45  | | Join Date: 24th March 2003 Location: Florida
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Reps: 19,042 (power: 39) | | Originally Posted by rnmomof7 I was saved in 1976.
I had been confronted with the scriptures for the 1st time in my life.
So I was sitting in my bathtub and i asked God, who He was and who Jesus was.
I was suddenly overwhelmed with the sure knowledge that I was a terrible sinner and that Christ was my Savior.
I fell on my knees and gave my pathetic life to Christ.
I had never heard a sinners prayer or understood what it meat to be born again.
I often joke now that I remember the next day thinking I needed to joining a Presbyterian church because they believed in Predestination and I KNEW that this was fully the doing of God.
But time passed and I found my way into a mega church near my home.I put the predestination thing out of my mind.I thought that my salvation was just a little different than all my friends that did altar calls.
Time passed and I got a computer and began to post on a large news forum that had a lot of Calvinists posting.
I would see their thread titles as I scrolled by them. i never wanted to get involved in that fight.
I wanted to be "nice" and "loving" and have people tell me how great a Christian I WAS.I wanted nothing to do with those threads.
One day I wandered into a thread on Pelegianism. I did not even know what that was. But it did not take me long to get up to speed.
Before I knew it I was in full battle mode with the "evil Calvinists"
It made me study doctrine and church history... and scripture, lots of scripture.
Even as I was battling them I was hearing and learning the doctrine so I could refute it.
After almost 2 years of the battle the threads ended.
I was a much more knowledgeable Christian as a result of that ongoing debate.
BUT then the Holy Spirit stepped in.
One night as I sat doing my bible study the words jumped off the page at me. i started seriously searching the word. Putting aside my bias and really reading what it said.
I was looking at how God acted with men from the beginning, over and over I saw the sovereignty of God and the election of men.
How could I have been a serious student of the Bible and missed it for all those years.
I told one of the pastors that had participated in the debates that I was now a Calvinist. I knew that I knew. One of them was a physician that had lost hope that i would ever "get it" asked one of the younger posters to talk to me to see if I had indeed gotten it.
That young Orthodox Presbyterian told me he never had a doubt that I would one day become a reformed believer, because I have a love and passion for the word of God. He knew I would see it.
I have often hear that "converts" often have the most passion. I know that is true for me. We have a most gracious God that loved me before the foundation of the world... how amazing is that ??? me ....a real zero.... loved of God
Wonderful testimony RN!
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- American Declaration of Independence | 
3rd March 2005, 04:08 PM
|  | Wiki on Garth! 45  | | Join Date: 24th March 2003 Location: Florida
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Reps: 19,042 (power: 39) | | Originally Posted by mannysee Well it seems that i may well be heading down the Calvinist road, from the little that I know of his teaching (and the more I read the NT, the more I am convinced of these arguments. I am only just beginning to attend a Westminster Presbyterian Church here and boy O boy, the pastor sure does hold up the Bible there. I was led to Christ by a Baptist guy a number of years ago, and for some reason ended up attending a Pentecostal church for a few years before leaving town. Hmm, well after relocating, I attended a small number of churches, but what really put me off, was seeing very self concious efforts by the preachers to present a more entertaining? style of preaching/teaching, which just made me cringe, God Bless them though! So I really like my new church, where the singing is plain and simple and the Bible is held up and taught from in a plain way. I sure hope that the Calvinist view is the same as "the faith that was once delivered to the saints". I believe it may well be!
It's ok, it doesn't hurt nearly as much as the non-Calvinists say it will.
Welcome home.
__________________ "In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
- American Declaration of Independence | 
3rd March 2005, 04:15 PM
|  | Wiki on Garth! 45  | | Join Date: 24th March 2003 Location: Florida
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Reps: 19,042 (power: 39) | | Originally Posted by brightlights This is extremely similar to mine, except all of the Baptist stuff. It was basically through the work and persistence of the Lord through a few members of this forum. My change to reformed theology is extremely recent.
Welcome home to you too Brightlights!
__________________ "In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
- American Declaration of Independence | 
3rd March 2005, 08:58 PM
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Reps: 18,456,342,734,325,748 (power: 18,456,342,734,357) | | Originally Posted by mannysee Well it seems that i may well be heading down the Calvinist road, from the little that I know of his teaching (and the more I read the NT, the more I am convinced of these arguments. I am only just beginning to attend a Westminster Presbyterian Church here and boy O boy, the pastor sure does hold up the Bible there. I was led to Christ by a Baptist guy a number of years ago, and for some reason ended up attending a Pentecostal church for a few years before leaving town. Hmm, well after relocating, I attended a small number of churches, but what really put me off, was seeing very self concious efforts by the preachers to present a more entertaining? style of preaching/teaching, which just made me cringe, God Bless them though! So I really like my new church, where the singing is plain and simple and the Bible is held up and taught from in a plain way. I sure hope that the Calvinist view is the same as "the faith that was once delivered to the saints". I believe it may well be!
You would be amazed at the number of Calvinists that were members of Charismatic churches .
My Pastor was Charismatic for years before becoming a Calvinist .
There is a comfort of going to church and having it be about God and not men !
__________________ "A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything"
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, and Sola Deo Gloria
A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything" Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | 
3rd March 2005, 09:00 PM
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Reps: 18,456,342,734,325,748 (power: 18,456,342,734,357) | | Originally Posted by brightlights This is extremely similar to mine, except all of the Baptist stuff. It was basically through the work and persistence of the Lord through a few members of this forum. My change to reformed theology is extremely recent.
Welcome to the reformed community of believers.. When God wants you to hear, you do
God Bless
__________________ "A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
"He who stands for nothing, falls for anything"
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, and Sola Deo Gloria
A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw
that God's Truth was attacked and yet would remain silent." John Calvin
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