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Old 3rd February 2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mhatten
I really don't think God thinks we have terrible bodies, He did design them afterall.
I'd like to think that God made me a little thinner than I am.

Other than that, I totally agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Galadriel
I think in the correct context, sex and religion mix fine. God has made it pretty clear that within marriage, sex is a great thing, and that it is blessed and fine, and it does not make you "unpure". We do though have to be careful to not think excessively about sex and have it consume us and drive us to sin though.
Well said! I think its a beautiful thing if it happens in the right context.

The Bible says that sex before marriage is wrong.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

I heard a pastor on 107.9 (here in california at least) that said that when you have sex you share your soul with someone, you become part of that person.. and I think that's true. I think that's one of the prime reasons God says not to. We should share that only with our married partners. Those are just my two cents..

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Originally Posted by Sam Gamgee
I think sex is a perfectly natural act as long as both partners are consenting adults.
It's a beautiful thing
It's a blessing and a gift that God gave us... the ability to experience closeness with another person.

I can't even fathom a God who would give us the ability to have sex, make the act so wonderful, and then say we shouldn't do it.
God said do it! just laid out boundraies in his wisdom for many reasons..marrige is the place for sexual relations..period.
God says it..we love him by doing what he says!

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Originally Posted by perfection
I can only say that when it comes to religion ,sex is one of the most horrible things that there is out there. Sex and religion simply don't mix, you can never be pure while having sex. You can never be as great As our savior Jesus Christ in acts of pure love if you have sex, heck you can't even do your homework in a fashionate matter because the though of sex constantly disturbes you. I bet most guys get bad grades in school just because sexual thoughts ,and hormones are driving them crazy. Im even sad because even talking about sex is almost like religious suicide.

I just like think positive though, we have this horrible body as a gift from God. And i just take contempt in Einsteins Quote, that god doesn't play dice. So there must be a meaning behind it, i sure wish though i knew what that meaning was. What is religiously allowed or not.
I am so very sad for you to read this. What an amazing and wonderful gift you would deny yourself. Were you not created in God's own image? Is not sexuality part of that creation? That the perversion of that sexuality for sin is an abomination is assured, but that the nature of that sexuality is inherently sinful is nigh blasphemous.

I would also caution your gauge for acts of love. We will never be as great as Jesus Christ in anything ever. Our sexuality has nothing to do with that it's our imperfect flesh that causes us to fall.

Brother, you are missing so many of God's promises to you. He did not create you with a sexual nature to cause you to stumble, he created that nature for his glorification. All things work for the good and glory of God. Instead of chastising and flagellating yourself for the very gift that God has bestowed upon you, thank him for it, and pray for the discipline to honor him with it.
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Perfection, It's better to fight your way through life, than to deny your living and put up this facade of no hope.

Basically accept yourself. Take a narrow path with God if you want, but make sure it Works. Live and Grow.

Originally Posted by perfection
I can only say that when it comes to religion ,sex is one of the most horrible things that there is out there. Sex and religion simply don't mix, you can never be pure while having sex. You can never be as great As our savior Jesus Christ in acts of pure love if you have sex, heck you can't even do your homework in a fashionate matter because the though of sex constantly disturbes you. I bet most guys get bad grades in school just because sexual thoughts ,and hormones are driving them crazy. Im even sad because even talking about sex is almost like religious suicide.

I just like think positive though, we have this horrible body as a gift from God. And i just take contempt in Einsteins Quote, that god doesn't play dice. So there must be a meaning behind it, i sure wish though i knew what that meaning was. What is religiously allowed or not.
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Originally Posted by growingupinhim
God said do it! just laid out boundraies in his wisdom for many reasons..marrige is the place for sexual relations..period.
God says it..we love him by doing what he says!

By grace!
So, if I choose not to marry, does that mean that I have to stay celibate my entire life?

That sucks.
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unlike the latin church which teaches that sex is only for procreation, the orthododx church says that sex is so that a husband and wife can use the pysical experiance to become closer emotionaly and spiritualy so they may become closer to god together. the purpose of marriage is salvation, just the same as all other sacraments of the church.
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What is the church of scientologys view, about reasoning on not having sex out of wedlock? why do they believe there should be no sex before marriage? Does it relate to promiscuity or to procreation?
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