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11th December 2004, 01:22 AM
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11th December 2004, 03:26 AM
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11th December 2004, 03:40 AM
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Reps: 10,809,390,223 (power: 10,809,400) | | Originally Posted by gtsecc Well?
Alright - I'm going to assume you aren't married. I do not believe the act of masturbation is sinful, however I believe the thoughts that accompany masturbation are sinful.
Check this out - Matthew 5:27-30 "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away."
Jesus said that. Notice the parts of the body He mentions - your eye and your hand. Understand that Jesus understood this struggle, but do you believe Jesus ever gave in to the temptation to masturbate? Of course not. We know He never sinned.
If you are enjoying sexually explicit thoughts about a woman that is not your wife then I believe it is sinful. It is a completely natural act, but to live by the carnal and fleshly nature is to be no different from an animal. Live by the Spirit, not by the flesh!
Hope this helps and God Bless.
-Wes
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11th December 2004, 03:52 AM
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11th December 2004, 05:11 AM
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it was just dun cause it felt good? | 
11th December 2004, 06:24 AM
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That depends on the person and what the Lord has told them . | 
12th December 2004, 12:40 AM
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Reps: 386,040,487,290,772,672 (power: 386,040,487,290,852) | | Originally Posted by New_Wineskin That depends on the person and what the Lord has told them .
I totally agree. It's a gray area and is a matter of personal conscience. | 
12th December 2004, 01:11 AM
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Reps: 10,809,390,223 (power: 10,809,400) | | | Yes, and through the Bible God tells us impure thoughts are sinful.
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12th December 2004, 01:26 AM
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Reps: 17,950 (power: 28) | | | It is a gray area and often those are the most dangerous. I encourage you to take the narrow path. Keep in mind 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God; I think masterbation, even done without lustful thoughts if you can manage that, still opens the door and establishes a stronghold. It becomes easier to have those thoughts when you find someone you are interested in and begin to try to justify it a nd in doing so dishonor that person. Take the safe road and abstain is my advice.
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12th December 2004, 06:25 AM
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Reps: 1,563,692,594,550,078,464 (power: 1,563,692,594,550,097) | | Originally Posted by Holly3278 I totally agree. It's a gray area and is a matter of personal conscience.
Yep . "Do not handle , do not taste , do not touch ..." . |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |