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22nd November 2004, 04:52 PM
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Reps: 52,116 (power: 78) | | Originally Posted by Metanoia02 Someone once told me the best thing I could do is not "threaten" to leave, but "threaten" to stay!.  A sincere and zealous reformer will avoid extremes and never overstep the bounds of true reform. The true reformer will always be united in the closest bonds with the Church and Christ, her Head. - Pope St. Pius X (1835-1914AD)
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22nd November 2004, 04:54 PM
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Reps: 463,164,232,302 (power: 463,164,268) | | Originally Posted by clskinner A sincere and zealous reformer will avoid extremes and never overstep the bounds of true reform. The true reformer will always be united in the closest bonds with the Church and Christ, her Head. - Pope St. Pius X (1835-1914AD)
Very wise words ineed.
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22nd November 2004, 05:26 PM
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22nd November 2004, 05:27 PM
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22nd November 2004, 05:33 PM
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Reps: 36,708 (power: 74) | | Originally Posted by Metanoia02 Some of you may know I come from a pretty liberal parish when it comes to liturgy. It has been a struggle for me at times and Sunday Eucharist can be a time of distraction not concentration. I much prefer daily Mass to Sunday.
I thought I had put most of that behind me and had settled into concentrating on the Mass the best I could. Until last night.
Last night I attended the Life Teen Mass, (which has it's own set of liturgical problems) I was surprised (not shocked, nothing shocks me anymore) to see what was going on before Mass. The priest called up all those who were to be confirmed this year (the teens) for a blessing at the baptismal font. Everything was cool until he gave his prayer book to the cadidates and they took turns reading the 'Prayers of the Faithful' with the deacon standing right there. Okay, that wasn't the end of the world but I wasn't happy. Then the priest continued on about how they were to experience being part of the community. Finally he said that the first thing they would do is to be Eucharistic ministers at that Mass. Wait a second! They haven't even been confirmed yet! No training, or formation. Just go up and do it?! 
Lord, have mercy!
Have you told the bishop?
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22nd November 2004, 05:44 PM
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Reps: 14,171 (power: 27) | | Originally Posted by Brother Charlie which of these strikes you as the most un-liturgical metanoia?
BC,
When those who have not been fully formed in the faith , act as an Extdaordinary Minister of the Holy Communion, when there are those present that have been duly appointed as EMHC's, I have huge problem.
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Reps: 14,171 (power: 27) | | Originally Posted by Shelb5 Have you told the bishop?
Unfortunately, our Diocese is currently without a Bishop. It will be month's before we get a new one.
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22nd November 2004, 06:00 PM
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22nd November 2004, 06:07 PM
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Reps: 1,465 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by Brother Charlie i am a complete idiot when it comes to the liturgy. What exactly are the requirements to be a EM?
To be an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion someone must have minimally been confirmed and received first Holy Communion. They should be Catholics in good standing and it is up to the bishop to set an age requirement and to commission people for extended periods of time. In my diocese someone can be a junior or senior in HS. A priest may depute people for a single occasion, but not beyond that.
In any case, it probably isn't pastorally appropriate to have the newly confirmed administering the sacrament.
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22nd November 2004, 06:30 PM
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Reps: 13,933 (power: 30) | | Originally Posted by Brother Charlie i am a complete idiot when it comes to the liturgy. What exactly are the requirements to be a EM?
Holy Orders.
Only deacons, priests, and bishops are Eucharistic Ministers. Lay people are Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion, and Redemptionis Sacramentum stated very clearly that we are to make this distinction, since the use of Extraordinary Ministers should be, well, extraordinary.
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