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Saint or Sinner?

If you had to choose to be either a saint or a sinner, what would you choose? If you could not do both. If for example, your choice was to be a saint, then you would have to be willing to give up all sin. What would your choice be?
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saint... I am obviously still battling with my sin, but man if I could make a split second decision to stop sinning period... id do it in just that, a split second.
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Re: Saint or Sinner?

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If you had to choose to be either a saint or a sinner, what would you choose? If you could not do both. If for example, your choice was to be a saint, then you would have to be willing to give up all sin. What would your choice be?
Saint, without question. Why would ANYONE want to be a sinner?

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good question!!

i think i see what point john is working toward.


this should be an interesting topic!!
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Re: Saint or Sinner?

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If you had to choose to be either a saint or a sinner, what would you choose? If you could not do both. If for example, your choice was to be a saint, then you would have to be willing to give up all sin. What would your choice be?
G'day JohnR7 -my choice would be "saint" -the other really isn't an option, as that's the way I came. However Jesus CAME and set me FREE!!

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Only Sinners get to be Saints!

I thank God I was born a sinner with the opportuinity to enjoy the ministry of forgiveness of my sins in Christ.

Who would want to bypass Christ?

I choose sinner, because sinners are the only ones who get saved!
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>>if I could make a split second decision to stop sinning period... id do it in just that, a split second.

It looks to me like you have the right attitude. I do not know about a split second, but I am sure we can be set free from all sin in a moment of time. In fact I believe that when God saved me, that I was set free from sin, but that I made a choice to return to it in part.

God can accomplish more in a moment of time, than I could acomplish in a lifetime apart from Him. They say that Jesus will return in the twinkle of an eye. Perhaps that is a split second of time that our whole eternity will be changed. Yet that same resurrection power of God is already at work in us to prepare us for that day.
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Excuse my ignorance but what is the actual definition of a Saint?

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I would rather be a sinner. You can't experience true joy without pain.
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>>Excuse my ignorance but what is the actual definition of a Saint?

I was using the word Saint meaning to be free from sin. But actually it means to be Holy before God as in: "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty" Rev. 4:8 It means to have a garment cleansed in the Blood of the Lamb, and not defiled by the flesh. To be pure, consecrated and dedicated to God.

1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

You can look up Holy in your dictionary to get the real Bible meaning of the word Saint.

hagios, hag'-ee-os; from hagos (an awful thing) [compare Greek 53 (hagnos), Hebrew 2282 (chag)]; sacred (physical pure, moral blameless or religious, ceremony consecrated) :- (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

ho·ly (h½“l¶) adj. ho·li·er, ho·li·est. 1. Belonging to, derived from, or associated with a divine power; sacred. 2. Regarded with or worthy of worship or veneration; revered: a holy book. 3. Living according to a strict or highly moral religious or spiritual system; saintly: a holy person. 4. Specified or set apart for a religious purpose: a holy place. 5. Solemnly undertaken; sacrosanct: a holy pledge. 6. Regarded or deserving special respect or reverence: The pursuit of peace is our holiest quest. 7. Informal. Used as an intensive: raised holy hell over the mischief their children did.
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