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Kent Hovind

Have any of you heard of him? He has many teachings on creation verse everything else. He talks all that science stuff. I cant remember his website but hes got the best teaching I've heard on anything like that.
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He's a complete fraud... and he's very dumb too. A lot of what he says on his website is so utterly wrong, it's painful to read.
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He's an idiot. He have been beaten dozens of times in debates and always claim "victory". talkorigin have an exaustive debunking of ALL his claims.
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Look at this, I just took some random FAQ question and he manage to make a bunch of mistakes:
There has never been any evidence that any kind of plant or animal has ever been able to create itself or produce any other kind of plant or animal. We have seen thousands of changes within the created kinds but that is not evolution.
1) He confuse evolution and macroevolution
2) He is double dead wrong on his first claim since:
a) We have incredible evidence of "kind" to another "kind" such as the fossil record of our own ancestors species. We have so much evidence for so much species its just can't be denied.
b) speciation have been observed in laboratory. 2 populations becomes unable to mate and so each develop different traits.
3) His second sentence is half-right. Indeed, all those changes aren't evolution but are mutations. If now you take in account the fact that if the change is beneficial, the individual have more chance to survive, you get natural selection. Now, evolution is roughly natural selection + mutation. So, Kent Hovind do not know it but he do agree with evolution. What he do not agree with however is macroevolution. But that is just because he so want the universe to be 6000 years old.
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I listened to one of his online sermon things a while back (one of the ones archived on his site) and was so astounded.

He was saying so much dumb stuff like like "I don't want my tax dollars going to this" and "They try to use their educational backgrounds to sound smart".

Then... the debate against Pigliucci...

That was just unbelievable.

He wanted Pigliucci to be called "Mr." because he [hovind] thought his [hovind's] credentials were actually credentials and wanted to "level the playing field", and wanted "evolution" to be called "evolutionism" in the same way we say "creationism" because the suffix '-ism' has negative connotations.

Not to mention the fact he tells us that T-rex was a herbivore and that dinosaurs have been found ~80 years ago.

(Edit: I'm referring to carcasses or specimens that indicate dinosaurs were alive ~80 years ago, not fossils)

The man knows nothing about science.

He should quit doing whatever he does. He only gets shown love on those stupid Christian tv shows.

I'm sure that the title of this thread alone will attract a massive amount of responses... He is a celebrity of sorts eh?

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He was saying so much dumb stuff like like "I don't want my tax dollars going to this"
What's really disgusting is that he doesn't pay taxes to begin with.
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Really? I thought his criminal activities ended at assault and battery.
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Have any of you heard of him? He has many teachings on creation verse everything else. He talks all that science stuff. I cant remember his website but hes got the best teaching I've heard on anything like that.
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