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why in the **** are you talking about why kent may or may not be attractive. I'm can tell you honestly i DONT find him attractive on bit. If I was a woman and he was him and there was nobody else on earth and God was counting on us to start up the population and the fait of the whole world was on my shoulders. Then I would disappoint God. Cause hes gross! (looking)
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Originally Posted by ilwjc
No male would find Kent Hovind attractive.

Plato said in the Symposium somewhere that we can only appreciate what is really attractive so I appreciate Kent Hovind.
I am NOT a male. I am 100% woman. I know attractive when I see it/hear it and he is not it. But like I said, help yourself, have at it. I honestly do not think you will find too much competition out there for him.

And according to Plato-that is why I do not find Kent Hovind attractive...
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Originally Posted by Justin04
why in the **** are you talking about why kent may or may not be attractive. I'm can tell you honestly i DONT find him attractive on bit. If I was a woman and he was him and there was nobody else on earth and God was counting on us to start up the population and the fait of the whole world was on my shoulders. Then I would disappoint God. Cause hes gross! (looking)
Yep!
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Hebrews 11:1 says."Now we understand the worlds were framed by the word of God."

so we see there that there is more than one world.

God gave man dominion only over the earth, so we can be sure man does not live on other planets.

About life on other planets, it is probably true that there is life out there since God himself is life, but for sure there are no humans anywhere except on earth.

Of course people who do not believe the Bible will not agree, but that is certainly their business.undefined
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Originally Posted by ilwjc
His soul, which is his will and emotions is seperate from the brain.
Interesting. So exactly how do, say, anti-depressants work then? If a person's emotions are seperate from their brain, obviously such drugs would have to work on something besides the brain.

(edit: After reading more of the thread, I'm pretty sure you are trolling so no need to reply to this. ilwjc --> ignore list --> profit!)
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Originally Posted by ilwjc
Hebrews 11:1 says."Now we understand the worlds were framed by the word of God."

so we see there that there is more than one world.

God gave man dominion only over the earth, so we can be sure man does not live on other planets.

About life on other planets, it is probably true that there is life out there since God himself is life, but for sure there are no humans anywhere except on earth.

Of course people who do not believe the Bible will not agree, but that is certainly their business.undefined
Not sure how you are getting that there is not life out there out of that but ummm...ok....

pretty narrow view....

Life is an algorithim and where the conditions are right you will have life.
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Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff
Interesting. So exactly how do, say, anti-depressants work then? If a person's emotions are seperate from their brain, obviously such drugs would have to work on something besides the brain.

(edit: After reading more of the thread, I'm pretty sure you are trolling so no need to reply to this. ilwjc --> ignore list --> profit!)
I was considering giving ilwjc a homework assignment: take some psychotropic drugs, jab various parts of the brain with an electric prod, then cut out part of the frontal lobe.

I don't really see the point now.
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Ilwjc, if you would like, I would be willing to try to write for you a model of the brain and how what we perceive as the "mind" became an offshoot of the brain.

I am going to have a Ph. D. in Electrical Engineering around the begining of '05, so I tend to view it similarly to the way I view circuitry, a controlling mechanism which helps to accomplish a task or tasks and becomes more advanced as more difficult or cognitively demanding tasks are needed to be accomplished.
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The brain absorbs knowledge and it can also absorb pills, also placeboes.

The brain holds the mind, or let me put it this way.....the body holds the person.

Give a dead person pills and see how much it helps.

Give a dying person pills and it is in vain.

If a person is depressed and is given anti depressant, the pill is simply lying to the person that he is not depressed, because if you take the pill away he is depressed still. Placeboes do the same to many people, it is all in the thinking.

Pills do not take away depression. if they did, no longer would the pills be needed after one or two.

A person is having seizures and the brain is cut in half so to speak. The brain was left too small to hold all of mind, which in that case was diseased so person cannot have seizures.

Pills are good and bad, mostly bad.

If you eat food and get fat, your body was following your mind .......as in pills, the brain follows the mind and absorbs the pills.
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How could the mind be an offshoot of the brain?

I take it you think the brain is capable of thinking without the mind thus it knows it needs a mind without a mind?

Not logical or possible.
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