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9th March 2004, 05:54 PM
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Reps: 47,556 (power: 80) | | Originally Posted by Chuck_Darwin Besides there are at least 2 dates for Easter every year. The standard one and the the one for the Eastern Orthodox church. Which one should be the official holiday?
Some years (like this year) they are the same 
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9th March 2004, 05:57 PM
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Reps: 47,556 (power: 80) | | Are there actually very many Christians who base their entire faith or even any faith on Easter or Christmas.
Unless you consider 400 million Eastern Orthodox and over a billion Catholics not very many, I would say that yes, Pascha (Easter) is central to the Christian faith. Actually, I find the celebration of easter and Christmas to be questionable in it's religious value.
Haven't celebrated Lent and Pascha recently I see 
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9th March 2004, 06:01 PM
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Reps: 47,556 (power: 80) | | Originally Posted by groundhog One, it is my belief they should be commemorated all year long, not just at specific times of the year.
Actually, the feast of the Resurrection is celebrated every Sunday in the Orthodox Church (and IIRC the Catholic Church also). Additionally, the Nativity is commemorated during the beginning part of every Divine Liturgy (Proskomedie)
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9th March 2004, 06:01 PM
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Reps: 77 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by groundhog Slightly off topic here...
Why is Christmas considered a Federal Holiday? Why aren't all the liberals upset that the government shuts down on a Christian holiday? Where's all the fuss about separation of church and state?
Some are.......but like already mentioned...money talks in this country. If I were a liberal and had a business I personally would try my hardest to capitalize on all those "useless" holidays. I'd vote for more! |
9th March 2004, 06:18 PM
| | Liberal Filthy Hairless Pig-Monkey
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Reps: 1,571 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by groundhog Slightly off topic here...
Why is Christmas considered a Federal Holiday? Why aren't all the liberals upset that the government shuts down on a Christian holiday? Where's all the fuss about separation of church and state?
The reasons vary. Here are mine.
1. You actually want me to argue against getting time off? C'mon..
2. That is when most people take their time off. This is a family holiday for me. A time for me to get together with those I care about. That's when we traditionally take the time to do that. |
9th March 2004, 06:23 PM
| | Liberal Filthy Hairless Pig-Monkey
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Reps: 1,571 (power: 0) | | | Questions to Christinas who think we want to eliminate Christianity:
Why do you need me to celebrate your holiday with you? Is your faith so weak that you need the validation of an atheist? What is it about forcing me to worship your God in your way that makes you feel better about yourself and your faith?
I thought it was about you showing your love for your God. So get on with it already and leave me out of it.
On a side note, my family has a number of faiths in it (and a number of atheists). Easter is our biggest family celebration of the year. On Sunday, we have a service that is all inclusive and love and acceptance is expressed for all. Some you folks should take a lesson, especially the author of the opinion article. |
9th March 2004, 06:25 PM
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by crazyfingers If a public school, why exactly should the school celebrate a religious holiday? It's that for the partents and family? Why should christianity need or deserve public assistence?
I love logic like this.
Why should homosexuality need or deserve public assistance??? oooooooooh. Right. By this logic it doesn't..
Which way are we going to have it, because this faulty interpretation of the separation of church and state isn't going to hold water for much longer under these conditions.
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9th March 2004, 06:29 PM
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Reps: 1,571 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by drfeelgood I love logic like this.
Why should homosexuality need or deserve public assistance??? oooooooooh. Right. By this logic it doesn't..
Which way are we going to have it, because this faulty interpretation of the separation of church and state isn't going to hold water for much longer under these conditions.
Your statement makes absolutley no sense. Care to rephrase?
What does religous teaching in public school have to do with your obsession with homosexuality? |
9th March 2004, 06:31 PM
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Reps: 26,771 (power: 43) | | Originally Posted by Firscherscherling Your statement makes absolutley no sense. Care to rephrase?
What does religous teaching in public school have to do with your obsession with homosexuality?
Well, I think it's pretty simple, really.. You're the first one to scream bloody murder when someone preaches Christianity in schools. "Oh! The HORROR!!!!" 
I don't see you uttering a word when it's homosexuality being preached in schools.
Nice double standard. What a joke. What a fraud.
Equal rights. hahaha. That's laughable. Equal rights really translates "we want our own way", and statements like what I pointed out merely backs up what I've been saying for the past couple of weeks. It's not about facts. It's not about rights. It's about power.
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9th March 2004, 06:32 PM
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Reps: 59,767,002,161,589,632 (power: 59,767,002,161,604) | | Originally Posted by bloops22 My girlfriend is student teaching in an elementary school and she said they don't celebrate Easter there. Not even the fluffy bunny version. So yeah it's already starting.
Not surprising there. Easter is now called by many PC Freaks Sping Season or Spring Holiday.
What I find hypocritical for Liberals and PC Christians is that Halloween isnt being renamed in society by the PC Police:
Fall Festival or Fall Holiday or is it only Christian Holidays must be re-named.
And to those who say Persecution of Christians isnt going on,remember this saying:
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller said that during World War 2 and the thing is people dont want to do anything about the Persecution towards Christians as long as they themselves arent hurt in the process.  | | |
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