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That's exactly my point. He made them infallible when 'binding' His truths on His Church. Well no, the Holy Spirit can't be inspiring you to conclude that Divorce is ok, then say to another it's not ok. Truth can't contradict truth. Again, how do you now when you're listening and when you're...

Ok so you're making this claim on a personal assumption and to remain consistent, then anytime you believe you're in deep prayer and study, you likewise must admit that you cannot err when understanding and teaching the Word of God. And if you happen to differ on a specific conclusion in any...

So if you didn't say it then, you believe the Apostles were promised never to bind error on the faithful? It was already shown. And the key word isn't 'Anyone'. It's His Church core. The Apostles and their Successors. Actually, someone who completely abides in the Willl of God would be sinless...

So basically what you're saying is that only the NT, written by the same men who were never promised to be able to teach and bind error free, should be trusted. That's one massive paradox you just walked yourself into man. ^_^

Is that your infallible declaration for all Christians? If not, why should we listen to your self absorbed interpretations?

She is the Mother of Jesus, the 2nd Person of the Godhead. Since the Holy Trinity is one God, Mother Mary is the Mother of God.

Sorry, you can't separate the Human/Divinity from the person. Christ the person was either both fully human and fully divine, or half and half. Take your pick. Good, you finally agree with the Church. :thumbsup:

So now you're saying that these acts of mercy are meritorious? And apply this same Grace to faith. You believe it Justifies yes? But this can only be AFTER your decision to accept it or not. So in a way, you're agreeing with me it seems.

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that God has nothing to do with 'Works of Love'? That it's all you? I've explained enough here for you to get my point. Go back and re-read what I said for me to lead up to that example. Show me this from a Catholic source. The CCC would come in handy now...

The Church never states that these works originate from ourselves. Can we at least get past that part? Because of your constant claim that the Church teaches that our works merit Salvation, I'm showing you an example you should agree with, where your action (originating and continued by the...

No they aren't anymore than the faith you have, is of yourself. And if you're a free will believer then it's your free will that allows God's Grace to work through you, to receive this faith. Same thing applies to the Works of God. You will either reject the Spirit who enables you to perform...

Works of the Spirit are not OUR works yet you seem to imply they are. If so, why? If not, then what's the problem?

Could you make sense please. You asked a question regarding a Catholic context from other posts. Montalban said to start a new thread on what the EO believes. So what's the problem? Did you not understand his repsonse?

Why certainly. "... We declare, pronounce and define that the doctrine which asserts that the Blessed Virgin Mary, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God, and in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, was preserved...

Norming is one of those things to get the focus from a non Scriptural teaching, away from the fact that sS really is their doctrine.

Actually no, since Mother Mary's Immaculate Conception was brought about by the Salvic Graces of the Cross. Christ needed His Mother to be a pure so His 'human' flesh, taken from Her, wouldn't have to be 'saved'. Now if you believe God needed saving then that's your problem but I won't touch it...

I believe you misunderstood Montalban. My point was referring to the OSAS believers, not repented sinners who come back to the Body of Christ.

Your 40 odd years of being a "Catholic" obviously hasn't taught you the difference between a title and a man. Too bad. And if you wish to speak of a contradiction, talk about your Protestant brethren's teaching of being in unity with the Body of Christ while maintaining their habitual sinful ways.

He just made himself the prime successor of the tweezers and head of all the splinters. Ok bad joke but SU started it. :sorry:

This first part may answer the question SU: From 'This Rock' magazine somewhat answers that question: From THIS ROCK (December 1992) -- the magazine of Catholic apologetics CATHOLIC ANSWERS, P.O. Box 17490, San Diego, CA 92177 QUESTION: Is it true that Pope Gregory I denied that the pope...