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Last caveat to help you answer the question I proposed to you: If 2 Christian black metal bands was say on tour with Burzum(possible since the morons put Megadeth, whom's frontman is a born again Christian with a band like Dissection or Rotting Christ) and let's say Varg of Burzum finds out and...

I offer a mistle toe, too much egg nog and a member of the sex you are attracted to get the holiday spirit for those who are worried about paganism in their holiday spirits.

And I offer this wannabe: You agree we are at an impasse? I am offering this because I am at a point that I have no reason to respond respectfully to what you type so to save either of us from being modded...impasse? Stalemate? Iggy list if need be? If not...I will gladly continue...

No they didn't wannbe. Do you not know the story? They were forced off the bill. So with the rest, you promote privatized groups to hinder freedom of expression? That's pathetic and absurd. Sure they have a right but that doesn't mean it is right...it is just legal. This is more than...

:thumbsup: Don't forget mistletoes and egg nog ;)

To further drive the point home: Two interviews to confirm a threat, not Megadeth walking away from the bill: BLABBERMOUTH.NET - DAN LILKER To DAVE MUSTAINE: 'Break Up MEGADETH And Pursue Your New Love For Jesus On Your Own' Then to confirm that they, meaning Megadeth played: KNAC.COM -...

He threatened to not play and the reaction created a situation that the other bands not being able to play. Under threat of someone else leaving the bill, two other bands lost their freedom of expression. Threatening to not play and simply not playing are two entirely different things I agree...

I will always believe guitar is a defining trait of metal. Black Sabbath started it and it evolved since. I don't down play the other instruments in regards to defining metal however... Take Gar Samuelson for example. Former drummer of Megadeth, died in 1999 and contributed to Megadeth's...

Tourniquet-Ark of Suffering - YouTube Ted Kirkpatrick's drumming is just beyond phenomenal. -------------------------- And because I like ending on a blast... Christian grind core at its finest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQZGJTgmq0

Tourniquet - Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance - YouTube

As I Lay Dying - A Greater Foundation (Official Music Video) - YouTube

Opeth - The Lotus Eater - YouTube I love the few little machine gun riffing parts, blast beats, Opeth style just soaking in every change in the song and as I call it, some trippy Transylvanian jazz keyboard line with some cool bass lines.

Opeth - Blackwater Park - YouTube

I went into Isengard and got you this:

Insomnium - Lay the ghost to rest - YouTube Ok this one fits my mood better.

Insomnium - Inertia - YouTube

My suggestion is to start with Primordial.

Since I saw this I figure I can respond in the thread. I love heavy metal. I really try to avoid the whole terminology based on religious conviction of the band members. It is hard to do at times, but I honestly despise labeling music as Christian or non-Christian as if we in the...

Buddhist philosophy...transcendental psychological poverty. Can't be considered a derogatory when poverty is a goal. I have nothing against complaints about modern materialism. Buddhist make great points about such things. However... Suffering can't be escaped...only regulated so getting...

I smell bacon...