Search results

  1. Si_monfaith

    IS CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY TRUE?

    So you agree Jesus wasnt forced to die on the cross, he lay his life down for us on his own accord in order to take God's wrath & sins upon Himself? Perhaps you believe in the truth of penal substitution?
  2. Si_monfaith

    What is your view of atonement?

    So you don't have an answer to the following question? Didn't Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead by a spoken word of authority? So why did He not defeat death by His word of authority & instead die on the cross in order to defeat death?
  3. Si_monfaith

    penal substitution verses Christus Victor

    Why are you persistently elusive to answer as to whom the ransom was paid to? If God doesn't require the ransom, to whom was it paid? The statement "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow" which was a consequence of their action doesn't need the wrathful heart of God to pronounce the deadly...
  4. Si_monfaith

    penal substitution verses Christus Victor

    To whom was the ransom paid? Why didn't God defeat sin/death/satan without a ransom? Was He unwilling or unable or bloodthirsty? If Christians die because of sin, were the forgivenesses which Jesus offered in His ministry before He died on the cross was meaningless? Will those who were...
  5. Si_monfaith

    penal substitution verses Christus Victor

    So what does "For without the law sin was dead (Romans 7:8)" mean? And what does "sin sprang to life and I died (Romans 7:9)" mean? Isn't your proposition "Sin isn't alive as though it could die" totally unbiblical? Bible never says if Jesus paid for my sins, my sins aren't forgiven by God...
  6. Si_monfaith

    What is the Atonement?

    Oh, so wrath came upon mankind after Adam Eve? How did that wrath come? Explain. Really? So God wasn't angry but very very happy with them when He said "I WILL GREATLY MULTIPLY THY SORROW?" Was God happy with them when they rejected His word & instrumentally chose the forbidden knowledge of...
  7. Si_monfaith

    What is the Atonement?

    So christus victor theory (cvt) agrees God was angry on mankind? If yes, what does cvt propose regarding the solution to God's wrath on mankind? If God doesn't require a payment for sin, why does He require a ransom to defeat sin/death/satan? Why does cvt jump to propose the defeat...
  8. Si_monfaith

    WHAT IS CHRISTUS VICTOR'S THEORY REGARDING SOLUTION FOR GOD'S WRATH ON HUMANS?

    Doesn't christus victor theory deny God's wrath on mankind and instead proposes that God was never angry towards mankind?
  9. Si_monfaith

    What is the Atonement?

    If the human heart can be hardened to not believe as in the John 12 passage, how do say human will is free? Does the term "free" make any sense?
  10. Si_monfaith

    penal substitution verses Christus Victor

    So you believe in God's predestination & God's exhaustive foreknowledge?
  11. Si_monfaith

    IS CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY TRUE?

    Is shunning evil & doing good in order to please God & earn His favor the same as trusting in Christ's perfect good works which pleased God, in order to gain God's favor? But Jesus demonstrated His love by forgiving sins (bad behaviors) even before He died on the cross. So how do you say death...
  12. Si_monfaith

    WHAT IS CHRISTUS VICTOR'S THEORY REGARDING SOLUTION FOR GOD'S WRATH ON HUMANS?

    I appreciate your answer but the question as rephrased is as follows: What is the use of christus victor theory which proposes the defeat of sin/death/satan when humans are yet under God's wrath? Will that defeat save humans from eternal hell?
  13. Si_monfaith

    The Purpose of the Crucifixion and why it had to be.

    So you mean to say because Adam Eve acquired the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, we learn to trust in Christ's perfect good works to please God & forsake trying to please God by knowing good from evil? Does God show us favor & love only for the sake of Jesus who alone was morally perfect...
  14. Si_monfaith

    IS CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY TRUE?

    As you don't have the answer you are evading the following questions, right? How does Jesus solve the problem? Death didn't come all of a sudden. Instead death followed God's wrath. Wrath followed the knowledge of good and evil (kge). But christus victor ridiculously & abruptly jumps to...
  15. Si_monfaith

    What is your view of atonement?

    What sin Adam Eve committed for God's wrath to come upon them? Without being freed from the law, how can you be free from sin when sin gets life through the law (Romans 7: 9: "but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died"). But christus victor denies wrath let alone no longer have...
  16. Si_monfaith

    IS CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY TRUE?

    How does Jesus solve the problem? Death didn't come all of a sudden. Instead death followed God's wrath. Wrath followed the knowledge of good and evil (kge). But christus victor ridiculously & abruptly jumps to address death without addressing kge & God's wrath. Why? Isn't it absurd?
  17. Si_monfaith

    What is your view of atonement?

    Death didn't come all of a sudden. Instead death followed God's wrath. Wrath followed the knowledge of good and evil (kge). But christus victor ridiculously & abruptly jumps to address death without addressing kge & God's wrath. Why? Isn't it absurd?
  18. Si_monfaith

    IS CHRISTUS VICTOR THEORY TRUE?

    The question was posed to you because you defend the christus victor theory irrationally which doesn't give the reason why Jesus needs to die in order to defeat sin when He could and did forgive sins even before He died on the cross!! Why are you evading this? Death didn't come all of a...
  19. Si_monfaith

    What is the Atonement?

    Blatant denial of Bible passages which talk of God's wrath in Romans 4:15, John 3:36 & Genesis 3:16 etc is not the issue? What are the problems? C'mon list them...