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Excellent! And thanks for your opinion. I could just as well say you are a psychopath. Atheistically speaking, what difference does it make? You and the psychopath both are sons of nature, children of indifference, offspring of natural selection, and like the tick, or mosquito, you live for...

you quoted me not Elioenai26. I also noticed you addressed nothing I said. That is unusual....

This would be an excellent question to post in the Exploring Christianity section. You can start a thread there and have the people there answer it. Here you may not get many responses from Christians.

I am being, for the moment, a simple atheist. I am taking the theory of evolution by natural selection combined with the absence of a transcendent moral arbiter, combined with the finality of the cessation of biological life, combined with the fact that I determine what is meaningful, good and...

Your opinion....go on... Can you speak for every member of this forum? You can speak for yourself surely. You cannot speak for me, for speaking atheistically, I can be whatever I want to be whenever I want to be it. Right now I want to be a relativist. That is your opinion. Some may agree...

We all actually have the same mom to be technical, being evolved and all from one common ancestor, but I digress.... Better????? Better???? Better is completely relative and while I understand that is your opinion, it does not tell me why I should share the same opinion. My survival depends...

I am attempting to speak as one without God in a world that exists because of blind natural processes acting on matter which is flying through space that for the most part is empty lifeless cold and dark. I am speaking as one that exists as a result of blind purposeless processes that gave rise...

but you have yet to explain why lying is bad? What is bad? Should I feel guilty when doing something bad? Why? What does it ultimately matter?

and that is also your opinion which i will simply dismiss. Great. I agree!:thumbsup:

That is your opinion. Many may agree. Many may disagree. The sadistic serial rapist would disagree. Speaking atheistically you are no better or worse than he is ultimately. Why is that opinion of yours the "objective truthful way to treat people"? What makes your opinion more truthful...

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Many agree. Many disagree. Speaking atheistically, since everyone determines for themselves what is meaningful, good, bad, ethical, and purposeful, the man who lives a life to disrespect and torture people is simply doing what he wants to do...

It may. If that is how you feel then that is great. Many agree with you. Many disagree. Speaking atheistically you are no better off ultimately than the most despicable self serving judgmental hypocritical Christian. When you die you will be buried or burned and become dust. How does it...

But what does it matter ultimately? You seem to think that somehow this whole conversation is really actually ultimately important. But its not. Jeffrey Dahmer was an atheist when he killed the people he did....so what? He was just doing what he found meaningful and pleasurable. Him and the...

So what? According to you they all die and cease to exist. There is no hell or heaven. So what?

I am sure some liberal christians do. So what? So what? Who cares? How does that negate that I said some atheists approve of abortion?

That does not tell me why lying is bad though. Why should anyone care about how society and relationships work? You might, but so what? Thats your opinion. Now youve got it!:thumbsup:

Thats great. But ultimately speaking atheistically it does not matter what anyone is.

:thumbsup: I think I have proved my point. Those that are in power in America have been theists and are theists now.

who cares. thats not my point anyway. My point is that those in power in America are theists, not atheists.

and I am saying speaking atheistically, the serial killer is no better or worse off than Mother Teresa ultimately.