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You realize that I was being sarcastic? I dont think Jesus would quote a play about Zeus and Dionysus. ;)

Should we also include "The Bacchae" (405 bc) as cannon, since Jesus quoted from it when speaking to Paul? DIONYSUS Better to yield him prayer and sacrifice Than kick against the pricks, since Dionyse Is God, and thou but mortal. http://www.gradesaver.com/the-bacchae/e-text/section5/

I just wanted to weigh in on the topic. I too am non-Pauline. I just wanted my fellow believers to know that there are others out there. :thumbsup:

From reading this thread, it appears that someone has a heart of rebellion. This is the REAL salvation issue. A person's "understanding" of scripture, has no relevance. A prime example is Eve. "You shall not surely die". Eve doubted God and disobeyed Him. She most certainly had a good...

:D I love it!

So in order to become a Hebrew one must become circumcised, and observe the Passover... Jew indicates you are from the tribe of Judah. My guess is a significant portion of the nation of Israel is circumcised and observes the Passover. Do they not qualify?

There would need to be enough removed to prove that he was a Jew. Amputating at the first knuckle is just as painful as taking the entire finger. The same concept applies to circumcision. It sounds to me, that if you only cut off a little bit, you're clinging to your old worldly self. or...

Its sad to say, MOST "Christians" don't even know which books are in the Bible. As for agreement on the validity or different levels of authority of the aprocrypha, MOST Christians place more authority in the books of Joel Osteen, than the books of the apocrypha. I would bet MOST Protestants...

The early church used multiple texts. Here are some examples: Barnabas I Clement II Clement Christ and Abgarus The Apostles' Creed I Hermas-Visions II Hermas-Commands III Hermas-Similitudes Ephesians I Infancy II Infancy Mary Magnesians Nicodemus Paul and Seneca Paul and Thecla Philippians...

You're right! We've discussed this multiple times and you're STILL getting it wrong! :) You haven't answered my question. You said we were "cherry-picking". Who's cherry-picking, the Catholics or the Protestants?

As a follow up to my last post... Was Constantine even a Christian? Constantine delayed his baptism until the last possible moment: his deathbed. Though he wasn't the first (nor last) to do so, the action has been an ongoing source of controversy over the sincerity of his conversion.

Out of curiosity, who "cherry-picked" the existing NT books? If I remember correctly, it was Constantine, when he commissioned the printing of 50 Bibles in 331AD. Only in 364AD at the Council of Laodicea, did the Catholic church sign off on Constantine's selection. What other "WISE"...

Dated: 7/14/2009

Jesus verbally endorsed the Torah, Nevi'I'm, and Daniel. The Ketuvim wasn't cannonized yet.

I think Messianics struggle with observing Torah at different levels. Some may attempt to follow as much of the 613 laws as they can, while others feel free from specific areas. Its a very personal thing. However, we wouldn't say its a requirement of salvation. How is this different than any...

Look into your own heart. A rebellious heart isn't of God. If you TRULY love God, you will want to please him. However most people don't want to be troubled by even the simplest act of obedience. I'd rather get a tattoo or guage my ears, than get circumcised. I have too much to do, to take...

Wait a minute.. Are you saying that we SHOULDN'T get physically circumcised? Keep in mind this thread is in the MJ forum, where the SOP says teaching against Torah observance isn't tolerated.

Christianity was thrown off track in 325ad, with Constantine's commission of the printing of 50 Bibles AND the councils of Nicea and Laodicea. These events brought Christianity under the Catholic church. Unfortunately, most of Christianity (including Protestants) use Catholic doctrine as a...

Lets look at seminaries. There are a handful of Bible colleges for each of the thousand plus denominations. Which school is teaching the correct doctrine? It doesn't really matter what your answer is. Does it? Because I can find a hundred other "Seminarians" who believe the school you...

So..... Apparently consensus is taught in seminary as a method to determine the will of God?