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  1. jonathanbchristian

    History of the Church for stummies

    Where is the Church in History? China before communism. Africa before Muslimism. Middle East Before Terrorism. The Truth is if you are American you concentrate of Europe, Italy, Greece, in secular history. The Bible is lauded as the most accurate history. In fact in your intellect you pick apart...
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    Christian Pentecostal History

    Pentecostal history covered by your church organization is not highly accurate even if it is Pentecostal. Most organizations are boasting of history of organizations. Charismata or gifts or tongues and baptism were know to happen before what is considered a movement. Groups such as Methodist in...
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    The socialization of the Church

    The Church has many fellowship ways. The idea of friendship among all Christians is promoted. It also is neglected that it was promoted as denominations being friendly towards one another. The issue is more realistically it has become that it was not promoted that every Christian be friendly...
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    Church planting

    Some church planting ideas are very basic. I took classes on this and find that in reality it needs alot of modifications. For example the basic idea you draw people at a recreation hall or something is very 1950's. Our current culture does not have so much for that. The best practicality is...
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    Doctrine of priesthood of every saint

    There is a little known doctrine that is vanishing. The priesthood of every saint was that each saint could evangelize their community. Many modern churches have forgot this for more modern programs which involve limited workers with the exception of manual labor. Of course we are not going back...
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    The study of Christian tendances

    Christians view God most differently than other religions. The protestant most definite. Christians believe God is in them upon salvstion. The closeness of God to Christianity leads to many doctrines of experiencials such as hearing God internally opposed to only from outside and some religions...
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    The best resolve is to love

    Love is the best we can do. We really like people more than love them. Love is becoming someone to the kingdom of Christ. Character has much to do with Love. Love is kind. Love is pacient. Love is not unseemly or gross. Love has to do with how we treat people. It is not a romance novel. It is...
  8. jonathanbchristian

    THe Gifts of the Spirit

    What Im saying is that the gifts of the Spirit coencide with the Fruits. You cannot say that the gifts are devoid of Love or other fruits. They are God showing His love to us. Tell someone who was healed by God that it had no Love in it and see if they believe you.
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    THe Gifts of the Spirit

    The True Gifts of the Spirit are LOVE. People say the fruits are against the gifts. Like you can only have one or the other? DOn't we realize that we need both? Both are from the Holy Spirit who is Love. SO why would the Spirit not like something that was also OF THE SPIRIT. People are afraid of...
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    there must be divisions

    there must be divisions to see who is approved of God. See attached art
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    miracles

    Do not be impractical or unbelieving with miracles.
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    Holy Spirit feelings?

    Trust me I dont limit God. I have been used in eight gifts of the Spirit many of them often. I truely believe thats the voice of the Lord and how the Spirit came to work. If you want to trust something never promised or taught in the Bible then you are gambling. How many times have people...
  13. jonathanbchristian

    you are called to prophesy

    The Bible says to desire to prophesy; thats calling. It says you all may prophesy; thats qualification. It says do all prophesy? No, many are called and few answer the call. Moses wished all Israel would prophesy; Jesus wishes:bow: you all would prophesy.
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    Holy Spirit feelings?

    I never said we dont feel something when the Spirit works His gifts or when He is grieved. I said our feelings are not Him speaking to us. For example: praying about something and then expecting whatever feeling we have to be the Spirit is nothing more than "Christian" wegee board. Who is God...
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    Holy Spirit feelings?

    I get this stuff from the Holy Spirit through the gifts, Bob. Why should I trust your feelings over that? You should be careful what you call foolish. The gifts are certified works of the Spirit. That I trust. Theres nothing unreprovable about the feelings suspicion.
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    Holy Spirit feelings?

    The term convict makes you think of your doctrine so does comfort. Prove its a feeling He gives us inside. He does all those things through the gifts and can give you those feelings by speaking audibly through gifts. They are just trigger words that make you assume how youve heard it taught is true.
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    Holy Spirit feelings?

    There is an old Christian myth that claims we feel the Holy Spirit speak to us. I challenge that. Can you find it in the Bible? People always quote me the verse about what The Spirit came to do. Nowhere does it say feel. In fact Holy Spirit does all He came to do through the gifts of the Spirit...
  18. jonathanbchristian

    prophesying

    Every Christian is called to prophesy. The Bible says we should all desire to prophesy; thats calling. It also says you all may prophesy; thats qualification. Do all prophesy? No because many are called and few are chosen. Seek it brother and sister. Only a few will believe this.
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    praying in tongues aloud

    I always take Paul's side and he cared. But a wise man once said if they do not listen to Paul the apostle they will not listen to you.
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    praying in tongues aloud

    Paul said unbelievers would think the church was crazy if everyone was prayin in tongues aloud.