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I’m not interested in your opinion on weather science should be Ontologically rather than methodologically naturalist, I am interested in what science is, and science has not been ontologically naturalist for half a century. Ghost

No I don’t think that is wrong, which is why I never argued it was wrong. Where we differ, is that you seem attached to Ontological naturalism, and seem to think it is still universally accepted. As if the work of Popper and Lakatos changed nothing. Ghost

Metaphysical is usually defended as “without material form or substance”. This includes both the idea of the supernatural, but also of the philosophical, the speculative and to a lesser extent the study of social construction phenomenon (although personally I am not of the camp that holds the...

I have looked at it carefully, I rather had to since I specialised in the methodology of science, the philosophy of science and the history of science as a post graduate. The has always been a demarcation criterion in science between what is and is not science. The currently accepted...

We don’t re-create the crime either. The way we interrogate evidence at a crime scene and the way we interrogate evidence for evolution are very similar. Any action leaves behind evidence, and we examine that evidence. Evolution leaves behind considerably more evidence than just the fossil...

Actualy it isn't, it is embeded in the sceintific method, the demarcation criterion and the methodological naturalism of science, and has been for a very long time. Ghost

That wasn’t the point that you disagreed with me on though, that is a general apologetics point which wasn’t under discussion. What I said, which you begged to differ with, was that the scientific method is agnostic, rather than atheist. Ghost

RTooty, let my beginin for thanking you for the relativly polite way in which you have conducted yourself durring this debate. it can not be easy, as you must be feeling a litttle bit overwhelmed by the number of peopel arguing against you and the lack of support. I hope you don't feel my...

You are welcome to differ if you wish, however if you are basing your opinion upon this single article, presented on a website with a mission statement to "promote the belief that religion is a human construct...", let me make out a few points. Firstly, I am referring to the fact that...

Actually, just like gravity, evolution is both a theory and a law. The law of evolution is that Allele frequencies in a population change over generations. The theory explains how and why, and the outcome of these accumulated changes. In science, the terms Theory and law have a very...

I'm sorry, ihadn't noticedit was an old thread, it appeared near the top on the forum, and I'm still acustomed to how much trafic the forum used to get, which meant everything on teh first 2 pages was pretty much current. Ghost

Evidently so, I'm sure he would recognise an appeal to authority as a fallacy, and hence worthless in serious debate. :P Ghost

Spoken like some one who has never gone into battle. Believe me the overwhelming emotions are not anger and hatred, its fear. Yet in all the examples you gave there have been instances of humans taking pity on the enemy and sparing them. They are far from the overwhelming majority, but...

Well, when you are as rude and disrespectful to others and you admit to trolling the forum "for a laugh" you surely can't expect to be treated any other way. Perhaps you feel other atheists should simply accept your appalling behaviour because they share a bond with you, a brother atheist...

Probably because they believe that 2+2=5 (to use your analogy). The argument that they should teach 2+2=4 because the rest of the world does so is a logical fallacy, argument ad populum I believe. They should teach it because its true, but the problem is that they don’t believe it to be true...

No they arn't. The gods he stated are all triple aspect triune gods. They each have 3 aspects which are not 3 seperate entities. Ghost

I don't know why Coyote particulalrly, but I assume the 7 is a reference to the Ark story, which originaly stated that the clean animals were taken onto the Ark by sevens, and the unclean animals by twos. Which is why I asked if Coyotes are considered clean or unclean (I don't know). Ghost

Are Coyote clean or unclean beasts? Ghost

Thank you for clarrifying your point, but what II was actually asking for was the evidence upon which you base teh assumption, I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear enough. Ghost