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Welcome to CF. :D

I have, but my hand is really bothering me today so I can't really focus on a reply or even typing. Some other time perhaps.

Sorry I have mixed up you and mikey in the same post.

We're not talking about company presidents are we. We're talking about your statement that God doesn't relinquish control IN ANYTHING. Comparing what God does to a company president, lacks all credulity. According to your POV, God elects us but doesn't give us the will or the means to do...

Yeh, the man who knew we entertain angels didn't know that God didn't need him to do His work of Election. :doh:

Why are we instructed if He is in control. He would just make us do it. So you admit free will and you admit compliance, but not as it effects your view of SE? God will always receive glory as prophesied in Is 55:11...that is the nature of His Word going out, but that doesn't mean everything...

Hello and welcome to CF. :D

Welcome to CF. :D

I would worry about your own replies, I am up to snuff, just not yours. Verboseness as far as I am concerned is designed to obscure a persons actual POV by hiding it in it's midst. It doesn't take huge replies to make a point, just don't follow some people's example of short replies that say...

It is clear throughout the NT that Christ came for the WORLD, not for the ELECTED.

Another non-answer. I'm pretty sure my question was pretty clear and straight forward.

Hi Farouk...I think I know you? You are on some other sites I'm on. Welcome to CF. :D How exactly do you end up showing 5 years on this site?

This did not address my question. What is this saying about your previous statement about the Sovereignty of God? Why do we need to put on armour if God is in control of this world? You said: Obviously Paul teaches in Eph 6, that God has relinquished control to; "the rulers, the authorities...

I have a very good handle on the issue of SE or Sovereignty of God. My intent was to deal with the former, but I'm more than willing to address the later. Where exactly does God's Sovereignty fit into Eph 6:11-13?

Your expectation that people will leave it alone is a tad disingenuous to say the least. If that was really your intent then you should have posted in the RT or the Monergistic Safe House. When you feel like actually debating the scripture and what it does convey, feel free to do so and let me...

Only to you from your dogmatic POV. I see it as consistent.

Not really...I did read your thread and did qualify my opening response. I always address this issue when it comes up as I believe it is harmful to those that accept it and Paul admonishes us all to come against false teaching. No offence, but I think you are very naïve if you think you can get...

Which is why I qualified my first post by stating that we should stay on SE on NOT go to the other four points, which apparently is hard for those of RT to so seeing as it is an all encompassing dogma. Yes the key word you voiced is IMO, and as I said I prefer God Word to man's opinion.

I did NOT say man did, and obviously Jesus recognized the good that men are capable of, as he pointed it out. Maybe you should pray about it an query your savior?

OK so you don't actually believe in the Biblical principle of predestination. Rom 8:29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son. Don't know how this would be the initial step in SE, when it is based on God's foreknowledge of those that would accept...