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    Should white people be forgiven for slavery?

    The internet says between 21 and 36 million people are in some form of slavery in the world today. That sounds like a lot. I'm sure some of them are in America. It sounds nice to be against slavery, but wouldn't you think that if it were really an engaging passion slavery would cease to...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    You're not getting what I'm saying. By virtue of your position, you cut your own legs from underneath yourself. Where you stand, nothing means anything. Everything is a choice. If it weren't there would be no accountability and no meaning. The only place meaning is lost is where you are...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    Another meaningless opinion. I make my choice because a deity in charge is the best deal out there. Without that, all you have is the abyss. You can choose whichever way you like and so will I.
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    Can there be morality without God?

    For Blue lightning I mean everyone has their own take on the laws of God and I do think revelation evolves to an extent even if it doesn't contradict itself. The bible is riddled with admonitions to care for the poor. People just aren't very good at it. Back then nearly everyone was...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    Blue lightning asked me how I saw it and I told him. That's all. What the rest of you people think I couldn't care less. The day atheists do my bible reading for me is the day I might as well burn it. The bible also says: Do not answer a fool according to his folly or you will be like him...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    1st question. Whether they are or not is beside the point since everyone has their own ideas about them. 2nd question. Without looking them up, I think the Bible prefers folks avoid slavery if they can. But back then slavery was the welfare system. Governments existed only to exploit their...
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    Can there be morality without God?

    I see them how they're written. Slavery was a very different thing back then as opposed to what we think of it now. First Peter, why not? Why make grief for yourself? Christianity wasn't out to change the culture back then. It was hard enough just to be able to survive within it.
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    Can there be morality without God?

    I do, but are you saying your understanding of it is the right one? Or are you just saying "this is how I see it"? If you're saying "this is how I see it" I can respect that. But I have no imperative to share your opinion.
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    Can there be morality without God?

    I think so and who says I ought to care about yours?
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    Can there be morality without God?

    Just another opinion. We've all got one.
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    Can there be morality without God?

    Personal morality is largely a matter of opinion. At least with an "absolute" standard we can all see how far we've deviated from it. As to how much that matters is also personal opinion.
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    Some don't understand Romans 3:31. Here is a challenge.

    I'm not able to understand this emphasis for the law. I can pretty much remember when I became a Christian, but I cannot remember when I became an old testament Jew. Scripture says even Jesus broke the Sabbath, so what's the big deal? When Moses came off the mountain my ancestors weren't...
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    Why do you need an eternal reward as a bribe to be good?

    I don't get what you're saying Strathos. So you think there's no virtue in being Christian? ????? Speak for yourself. We are not the same people as non-Christian.
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    I firmly believe that for the majority of atheists, a God that watches and knows and remembers is the ultimate horror. So they find it to be in their best interest that there is no God and then they set about proving it to themselves.
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    Sneering and shrugging might be appropriate. There is so much pain and heartache and sorrow in this sad world I feel I have about wasted enough of my time with crybabies and my patience with you runs thin. Patronizing? Not really, just weariness with those who are blind and yet say they...
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    No one is laughing at anyone suffering for eternity and if you read my posts you'd see I doubt that anyway. How long does it take to pull a trigger and if you do and someone is murdered, all you've ever done before is cancelled out and you are a murderer for the rest of your life and looking...
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    Skavau, Please don't say any more until I find my little violin so I can play along with you.
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    In the parable, Abraham told the rich man that even if someone were to come back from the dead, people still wouldn't believe. Time has sure proved the truth of that one. When God set this all up, he didn't bother to consult any of us. I'm sure that irks some of you to no end. Yet somehow...
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    Please explain to me how this is moral.

    So what? It works the other way too, so it doesn't change things.