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The only way I could see pride as bad is if it means "a selfish independence from divinity / God", then I could see it as a bad thing. It's true, religion does its best at destroying men's pride - to rebuild itself as an idol in the human psyche instead. I find that to be so very sad. God also...

What one calls good, another may say is evil. For instance, according to some vastly intelligent people here, I am a bad person. Because I do not believe as they do. However, ask others and they would champion me as a pretty decent bloke. So go figure. I find self-limitations to be...

Well I'm glad things came together for you! I have no problems with the person christians have claimed for themselves known as Jesus. I do, however, see a big discrepancy between religion and God though. The entire idea of a professional clergy that earns a LIVING by trying to "play" God in...

Hope in the sense of being a blind sheep who closes his eyes and ears to the truth? Why would I want anything to do with THAT?

I'm proud of my pride. Throwing it away is foolishness to me. Right, so religion presents the problem: "You're trash. A sinner, worthless, who is going to hell." Then comes the tagline sale: "Buuuut... we offer you the cure - Jesus!" Anyone familiar with marketing is well aware of this...

Right, and that's the thing... Right there, in that one quote I underlined, you have clearly demonstrated why I don't care for this... label... nor do I share those negative beliefs. If you truly want to view yourself as garbage... so be it. But I'd appreciate you not dragging me down into the...

Yeah, I've heard the Pangaea theory (which according to christians, was some 5000 years ago!). The problem is, the evidence shows the earth was relatively the same as it is now, not one large landmass that broke apart at rapid speeds 4500 years ago.

Yeah but, christians don't do that. They don't even follow their own teachings. Instead they use it to beat others down so they accept their doctrines and dogmas. It's sad. I don't want to turn this into an indictment on christianity. Let's just say even aside from the religious hypocrites...

I can't be identified as anything belief-wise, so it's pointless to try. Even choosing an "icon" was nearly impossible for me. I'm not" other religion" for I have NO religion. Yet none of the others fit me either. It's easier to say what I'm NOT than what I am. I find labels constricting and...

If a literal, global flood happened, I'd like to know how the kangaroos got back to Australia after the flood and how all the fresh water life in the seas around the world survived the flood. I don't think literalists take simple facts like these into account.

I agree with you - life is precious, a gift, and should, no, must be enjoyed. But the thing is, religion doesn't WANT you to enjoy your life. It wants you sick, defeated, miserable and unhappy. This is one of the primary reasons for me being branded a heretic and not finding this religion...

That's awesome, I'm happy for you guys! I live very close to there, but I highly doubt you'll see me there though. It is a perfect spot for a first date, and I've had many dates there myself, being so close to my home. I wish you both success, happiness and many blessings. You truly deserve...

Then perhaps there is hope yet.

Obviously not. But there are more than one gospel.

Ahh, okay. The "True Christian™" argument. You didn't really answer the question though.

Is eternal torment for the sins of our ancestors "Justice"?

You're preaching modern day protestant fundamentalism, not historic Christianity. I suppose many on this site would not be christians, in your view, since they don't adhere to the penal atonement view of the cross. Are you a young earth creationist who believes the bible is literally...

So humans = garbage? How lovely. To your last statement: Why? Why is that "the last thing humans deserve"?

I'm emulating Christian behaviour, not Jesus' right now. I find most Christians preach one thing, then act another. ;) Now, to answer YOUR definition of what constitutes a "Christian" I'm not sure if I would be or not. I've never heard of your benchmark criteria to judge one's personal...

Job never prayed for it, it just happened. And God doesn't answer my prayers, so I'm afraid I'll need you to pray for my misery and destruction. I'm sure many people here already do anyhow. ;)