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    Evolution

    Forgive me, but you are the only guilty party here. You are evading the text clearly. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21 And all...
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    Jeremiah teaches against rapture!

    Brother, I am Italian and this made me chuckle, as the correct phrase here would be "ciao", chow is an english slang term for food! My fridge is empty. The only evidence that would be "real" is that the food was simply eaten. It was not zapped out of existence by inter-dimensional bounty...
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    Evolution

    Yes, and nature attests indisputably to the fact that the vast plethora of biological life hailed from a single, macroscopic common ancestor evolving through billions of years.
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    Animals do not have souls. I guess it is a good thing that I spend my leisure time actually studying scripture rather than burying myself under science books...? Humanity being made in the image of God means that humans and only humans were made eternal, and it is the soul which defines the...
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    Because there is no other possible way to explain the creation of woman, and how she was "derived" from man. It may have not happened exactly as in the text (yes it could be allegorical) but woman was nevertheless derived from man, which is the ultimate truth being portrayed. Like I said, you do...
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    Evolution

    Yes, let us now rearrange the entire Genesis creation account so it can make "comfortable" sense to us. Trying to fit in theistic evolution usually goes hand in hand with attempts at redefining the scriptures themselves, no coincidence. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth...
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    Question for the YECs

    Yes God is omnipresent. But we also know, however, that He inhabits eternity, dwelling in heaven (i.e. 3rd heaven, above the 1st (earth) and 2nd (cosmos). Heaven is where His courts and throne are located, where He is surrounded by the angelic host. It is important understand the difference...
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    Bible vs. human evolution

    I do not particularly like nor accept universal common descent, which would place me on the same side of the fence as you. But I need to tell you, some of the "evidence" that Hovind has provided for some of his theories are ghastly and flat out non-scientific. You should see the theory he...
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    Bible vs. human evolution

    I understand the crime of tax fraud, and I do not support nor particularly like Hovind, so that isn't the issue. I was just commenting on what goodbrother had sais concerning Paul being behind bars. But if he was attempting to use it to defend Hovind's case, I retract my comment...lol
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    Evolution

    Yea, something that you are forced to do if you want to hold to theistic evolution, I don't really like it at all.
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    If scripture reveals woman being derived from man specifically, we should interpret it accordingly. The relation between eating fruit and having everlasting life cannot be anything but symbolic, so we interpret it accordingly.
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    Scripture reveals that woman was derived from man, one specific passage that speaks about the symbolic union between man and woman does not change this.
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    It's adam and eve, not adam and steve. If he was cloned the final product would not have been a woman...
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    There is no "setting apart". I am attempting to apply evolution to the claim Adam made... “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.” Something I noticed about TE, it's almost like you must...
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    Question for the YECs

    Do we accept what God says? You can go ahead and call God a liar, I on the other hand, do not wish to do so. There are waters resting above the firmament, as scripture reveals. These waters are not a part of the physical universe, as God did not assign any definitive boundaries to them. Yet...
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    Those are two different aspects, you can't just take "allegory" and applied across the board for every single thing within the first few chapters of genesis. The fundamental truth behind that portion of scripture is essentially that woman came from man. The fundamental truth behind the Tree...
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    Conjecture. Scripture tells us Cain dwelt in the land of Nod and built a city, it doesn't require only 3 people being involved just because they are all who are being mentioned in the passage. Or we could assume Cain didn't really dwell there and didn't really build a city. I am more inclined to...
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    Evolution

    Only evolutionary theory never at any time claims men to have evolved from apes.
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    Bible vs. human evolution

    Paul was considered a convicted felon because he was preaching the gospel. That was the extent of the example he presented really, someone's tax evasion is irrelevant.
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    Theistic Evolution and the Fall

    21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. I do not take this as allegorical for...