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And just to clear up terminology: Apprehension does require that the suspect be in custody, that was not the case here.

You think that what I described is lacking something?

My academy was near 800 total hours. The state required 778 hours at the time and that's just to get a piece of paper that allows you to take your certification test. That test is two strikes you're out, go back to the academy. Then assuming you pass the test you can apply at any agency who...

I agree with every one of your points.

Obviously I am only guessing, but probably a physical altercation. Again, which was not reasonable. And you are entitled to think that. For me that seems fitting to a premeditated act which I do not believe this to be. I am not arguing your perception. It is based on reason. I would ask...

I don't think hat what I said earlier came across correctly. I am not justifying the actions taken. I in fact said that the fear (hypothetical) that was felt by the officer was obviously not reasonable.

Where are you guys seeing that he dropped a stun gun near Mr. Scott? I saw the officer handcuff him, but nothing dropped.

What is the actual issue, in your opinion?

I think the picture being portrayed as "cold blood" is a little harsh. More than likely he officer was in fear, but given the video, that fear was not reasonable. This is also an easy one for forensics without any video. I know it is often perpetuated that in the absence of a witness an officer...

Not a cop and certainly not NYPD. No taser, no radio, gunbelt fell meaning he wasn't using required belt keepers. Shoulder patch doesn't look correct for NYPD. On second thought, maybe CBPO.

Stop using that kind of terminology to refer to law enforcement. I have politely asked you to stop several times.

That is unless the people of that particular jurisdiction routinely complain about traffic related issues and the LEOs are actually respondingbto complaints of the citizenry by performing traffic enforcement.

Than you need to take up the issue with your state legislators who make laws, not the law enforcement officers empowered by the people of the state to enforce those laws created by said legislators.

Are you asking for the definition of Reasonable/Articulable Suspicicion or caselaw?

Yes, but to be technical reasonable suspicion refers to a criminal act. Generally speaking traffic law violations are civil infractions that the state empowers LEOs to enforce. Traffic violations must be witnessed by a LEO and articulated as an actual occurence. Thus, it is probable cause, not...

I fully agree.

Agreed. Expecting rational thought and predictable behaviors from persons experiencing a mental health issue is not reasonable.

Yes, direct exposure several times for training and as an OC Instructor many indirect exposures. The FBI did a study released in the 90s on OC as a less than lethal option. IIRC it was found effective on 87% of people. The effects are significantly less effective on persons who are under he...

Tasers are not always effective. On these boards we recently discussed a case where use of a Taser several times had no effect and the subject allegedly then attempted to put his hand on an Officer's firearm. The incident was on video. I have been tasered several times due to training. I have...