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yep... I see some "goodbye" from some posters. :D Nothing changed since I left over a year ago. Oh by the way, I am just bored today and thought of this... so I am just passing thru and be on my way :wave:

Never said Word of Faith is Pentecostal. I was saying that there are many Word of Faith followers in the Pentecostal churches. Many of the Word of Faith preachers were Pentecostal preachers.

Yep, I gotta work tomorrow morning. I work 50 hours a week. :( Night

Its not what WE WANT and our DESIRES. It is what God wants and in His will. We are to desire to do God's will out of love and obedience as if we are after God's own heart. Nothing holy and genuine will be done in someone's life until their will is surrendered in active obedience to the Holy...

I agree with you too.

You got my point.

I agree. Most Pentecostals do not use the word "Apostolic".

Yes, John Wesley, Anglican priest, founder of the Methodist movement was never a Methodist just as Martin Luther was never a Lutheran.

Faith is the root of works that only the Holy Spirit provides. Without the Holy Spirit, the root is dead, even our own works are dead even as a hypocrite. The life of the church is made up of spiritual attitudes and spiritual motivations, spiritual graces that come from deep within the...

Apostolic church that has always existed whether it was called Israel or Christian (first at Antioch). Through Jesus Christ through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we have apostolic succession, but it is not in a line of men who pass along authority from one to another or have special...

There are alot of debates relating to Charismatic doctrines. Charismatics are VERY diverse with all forms of denominations. Charismatics do not believe in speaking in tongues are mandatory for salvation. There are many doctrines that Pentecostals and Charismatics do not agree.

Word of Faith is a spin off from Pentecostal denomination. Word of Faith is a teaching movement kindred to many Pentecostal churches and individuals around the world. Many of the beliefs are the same except I called Word of Faith "Hyper Pentecostals". They are more extreme.

I agree. I don't mind revival but how they do the revivals are damaging. I always had issues with "altar calls" for many years because I am very concerned about the fact that I believe it promotes easy-believism that leads to false salvation. Especially when it comes to healing. Matthew 7 is...

I noticed many Pentecostals when it comes to speaking in tongues, especially those who are in Word of Faith (health and wealth) have the attitude that breeds spiritual elitism, a superior attitude and does damage to some individuals, while building up the egos of others, but does little to...

Yep. I believe that "before the world was created, God unconditionally elected some (the elect) for salvation but did not reprobate (chose for damnation) any." What's so wonderful about grace, is that our pride on our humanity, the ability to think resulted eternal death from God's unmerited...

Abiding in Christ evidences genuine salvation through the works of the Holy Spirit, not self-work. Who are we abiding to? Jesus Christ, through the Word of God with the help from the Holy Spirit. Through Christ, the Holy Spirit is our security for eternal inheritance. Through Christ, the...

Through the Holy Spirit's conviction. Salvation is accomplished solely through His will and action—not only the gift of the all-sufficient atonement of Jesus on the cross but also the gift of faith in that atonement, created in the heart of the believer by the Holy Spirit. This work is the...

In the Old Testament Leviticus 9:7 Moses said to Aaron, "Come to the altar and sacrifice your sin offering and your burnt offering and make atonement for yourself and the people; sacrifice the offering that is for the people and make atonement for them, as the LORD has commanded." In the...

It is by faith but only from God. Faith is from God, not from each of us. We can do nothing to earn or receive it. Most important, this raises the whole question of the doctrine of regeneration because this is the most serious thing of all. This work is the work of the Holy Spirit, and His...

In the Old Testament, God calls Israel "mine elect" and chose Israel. In the New Testament, God calls Church "mine elect" and chose those whoever responded to the conviction of the Holy Spirit.