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What shall we learn about it AV? That there is nothing we can do to show it happened? But it doesn't AV, it just reminds everybody know what an A-hole you are and how little "Christian" there is in you.

You say arrogant, I say stating the obvious. Can I get that on a T-shirt? "I am a sign of the end times"

Might as well pass the blame right back up the chain. You're still not off the hook for suspending rational thinking. I don't recall him being a champion of the 4 Elements view.

So you're a part of a long list of people who believed something that wasn't true. It probably includes everyone who ever lived. What of it?

Some of them were really good diggers.

How about you prove that they were?

Come on AV, let's see your rain dance.

Did that event actually happen? No. I can spot some Jews arguing over religion though.

I decided it was the weather.

Yes, sorry, on that page m1 is the mass of the star. You already retracted what you said in post 93 anyway, so there's not much for me to say.

I really hope you're smarter than that made you sound.

You're ignoring the m1 term in F = Gm1m2/r^2 That term increases as you move away from the galactic centre, but you're treating it as constant.

Right, and just because something could be falsified, doesn't mean it will.

I'm not presenting anything of the kind, merely pointing out that the two of you said seemingly different things. You could clarify, or you could blame me for pointing out that they look different. As you keep telling me, I clearly don't understand these capitalised Christian concepts. I don't...

I love this place.

What does falsifiable mean AV?

Highlighted the significant part.

And I was asking how being pushed by God can be considered as a free choice.

You said God pulls everyone towards him, and people choose to harden their hearts against it, while Jazer said he can push someone either way.

I disagree. Because that is exactly how it appears, and it's not limited to Christians. People are really good at convincing themselves of something, then ignoring anything that would make them realise they're wrong. Yet Jazer is telling me something different.