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    The meaning of Matthew 18:18?

    Many thanks for your replies. They're very helpful. Walter.
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    The meaning of Matthew 18:18?

    Hello. I'd appreciate some help understanding Matthew 18:18 please. What is the proper context this passage should be read in? Are there other parts of the Bible that are helpful in understanding it? What does this passage mean... A. Specifically, i.e., what was Jesus talking about...
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    Indivisible and yet divided?

    Hello again. My thanks to everyone for their replies. :) Thanks DRich, but I think Chesterton has answered that one for me. However, there is a further question I'd like to put to you, that stems from the wording of your reply. Perhaps you could help me out in understanding the...
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    Indivisible and yet divided?

    Hello. I was wondering if any members of C.F. could help me out with two related items please? This has to do with the nature of the Trinity, it's indivisibility and what happened to it (I mean Them, of course) when Jesus took away the sins of the world by dying on the cross. Here's my...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    ...and finally. It looks to me as if this thread is coming to a natural end and I've certainly received plenty of interesting responses, for which I thank those who've offered them. It's now time to move on. Thanks, Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Aiki. ...and you. Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Chesterton. Please don't get me wrong here! When I wrote that I was having trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross, the position I took was that... A. The Gospels could be taken as historically accurate reportage. B. The Fall could be taken as the same, provided that I adopt a...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hi Mathetes! Ummm... ...Please note that I reckon this message a bit of a side-issue to my initial question, but I don't think it'll hurt to respond - providing the Mods don't mind. Thanks, Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Mathetes the Kerux. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Your points about the false dilemma are well made and well taken. Yes, I agree that the YEC p.o.v. is irreconcilable with the current findings of mainstream science - that's probably why the Common Sense scientists...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Chesterton. Boggles my mind too! :confused: Thank you, Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Mathetes the kerux! I wasn't aware that I was making non-factual presuppositions, nor that I was impaled on the horns of a "False Dilemma" - so if you could help out I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Aiki. If you look at the "Links" area of Common Sense Science you'll see that they link themselves to AnswersInGenesis and the Institute for Creation Research websites. Perhaps I'm wrong here, but because of that linkage I presumed that these folks were therefore Y.E.C.'s. Ken...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello again Aiki and thanks for taking time to reply. Your message certainly is food for thought! So would I be right in thinking that this website... Reasons to Believe: Hugh Ross, Fazale Rana, Kenneth Samples, David Rogstad, Jeff Zweerink ...has been infected by the un-Biblical...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Sorry to hear that Ebia! I look forward to your reply. Thank you, Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Ebia. Thank you for your quick reply. Why so? In ancient Egypt there are hieroglyphs that give a factual recording of a certain Pharaoh's (Can't remember which one exactly, Thutmose?) conquests, listing the number of slain enemy soldiers, the number of slaves captured, the number...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    And to you. Walter.
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello Deacon Dean & Ebia. Thanks for your replies. Currently I find myself drawn to both of your positions, but in different ways, finding strengths and weaknesses in both. Please note that I am trying not to offend either of you, but would like to understand more and so I feel that...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Hello again Ebia. Before I go on to comment about your last message, please let me assure all the concerned parties that I have no desire to cause any friction with my questions. When I opened this thread I stated that there might be some difficulties associated with them. Sadly, the search...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    To Ebia and Aiki, Peace to you both and thank you for your replies. Those quotes are very helpful Aiki, but they do prompt me to ask some questions. :confused: 1. Do you think it's possible that the writers of Chronicles, the Gospels and the Epistles thought that Adam and Eve were real...
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    Trouble squaring the Fall and the Cross.

    Based on the provable historicity of Jesus, I might conclude that this is sufficient authority to disregard the problem described above and trust the meaning of the Genesis account of the Fall from Grace. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------...