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  1. Conor B

    Wine and Children

    I suspect alcoholism may have a genetic component because my mother married a biker who was half Irish half Cherokee and he could not drink anything containing alcohol without going on a screaming bender. Virtually all of his family and children have inherited this same tendency. On the other...
  2. Conor B

    what tongue language do you speak?

    I don't believe for a second that the glossolalia engaged in by so many charismatics and Pentecostals comes from God. Speaking in tongues as shown in the Bible is in known languages for the purpose of demonstrating the power of God by reaching and teaching people who do not understand the...
  3. Conor B

    What do you believe Exactly?

    The most obvious difference I can see is the form our worship takes or "liturgy" if you will. Virtually all Christian denominations whether they accept it or not have a liturgy that is to say a "form" in the way they conduct their services. So do we, only ours follows a Hebrew form of worship...
  4. Conor B

    Are Mormons REALLY the unbiblical ones?

    I was born under the covenant (LDS) and remained LDS until rather late in life. I can tell you with certainty from a great many years experience both as a Christian and a Latter Day Saint that LDS beliefs diverge from orthodox Christianity FAR more than Christianity diverges from its Jewish...
  5. Conor B

    Privatize Marriage???

    As far as I'm concerned "marriage" is a covenant made between a man, a woman, and God, typically with a spiritual overseer officiating. As far as I'm concerned the state has no part in marriage nor should they. Considering the travesty that civil marriages have become and the abomination that...
  6. Conor B

    Missing: The First Vision?

    "As to trust of leadership or the religion, there is plenty of evidence of trust for those who actually have faith to learn it" So, does the LDS church itself actually have any sound basis upon which to stand? I am convinced that it does not. Here are just a very few of the reasons I believe...
  7. Conor B

    Missing: The First Vision?

    Not true there are a number of differing versions of the "First Vision" differing not only in detail but even in the number of personages who supposedly appeared to young Joseph. Here is the earliest known attempt at an ‘official’ recounting of the...
  8. Conor B

    Jewish Temple Ordinances?

    Clearly you have not also read the Bible with an open mind either. Had you read the Bible with the goal of seeing what it clearly teaches you would see that LDS temple practices are very much at odds with Biblical Temple practices. Further, I don't see anyone on this thread mocking LDS's. On...
  9. Conor B

    Jewish Temple Ordinances?

    Straining at gnats or not most of the posters are making the valid point that the Temple in Jerusalem and LDS temples have nothing in common in design, purpose, rituals etc. The fact remains that none of the LDS temple rituals i.e. endowments, sealings, proxy baptisms, etc are in any way...
  10. Conor B

    The Matter of Authority (LDS)

    We can argue competing doctrines until the end of time over whether the LDS have any Scriptural basis for their wildly divergent doctrines but for me it comes down to this: Does the LDS church itself have any basis upon which to stand? I am convinced that it does not. Here are just a very few...
  11. Conor B

    The Matter of Authority (LDS)

    Here is the earliest known attempt at an ‘official’ recounting of the ‘First Vision, from History, 1832, Joseph Smith Letterbook 1, pp.2,3, in the handwriting of Joseph Smith: 1832 Joseph Smith History, Page 1 The pertinent portion of the transcription...
  12. Conor B

    The Matter of Authority (LDS)

    That's for sure!!! Even reading Histories of the church written by upstanding church members such as B.H. Roberts six volume history of the Church or Richard Lyman Bushman's "Joseph Smith, Rough Stone Rolling" are enough to demonstrate to any thinking person that this LDS tree produces some...
  13. Conor B

    The Matter of Authority (LDS)

    Here is a transcription of the handwritten account of Joseph Smith's First Vision. I made a mistake in my earlier post on the topic. Several accounts of the first vision claim that he saw an angel, Joseph's handwritten account has him seeing "The Lord". I should know better than to cite anything...
  14. Conor B

    What is the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witness?

    Beginning with Adam onwards it is obvious that man was created to worship the Creator. Nowhere does it indicate man should aspire to become a "god". In fact to aspire to become "like God" was the basis for the original sin in the Garden of Eden.
  15. Conor B

    What is the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witness?

    We do not worship the Bible, its just a book we worship the God the Bible reveals to man through the word of God. Really? I don't consider 1 Nephi 13:26-29 to be much of a basis considering the BOM has very little internal and no external evidence of its veracity whereas the Bible has a...
  16. Conor B

    What is the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witness?

    I understand the differences between the Witness view of Jesus (Arian heresy) and orthodox Christianity (Trinitarian) view. I also agree that the NWT is a flawed translation in a few notable places. Nevertheless, the JW's do consider the Bible to be the final authority on matters of faith and...
  17. Conor B

    What is the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witness?

    Unbiblical or unscriptural does mean "wrong" if one considers the Bible to be the authoritative word of God. The fact that Latter Day Saints claim without basis that the Bible has been corrupted and instead turned to man-made "Scripture" to formulate a man made religion does not make them right...
  18. Conor B

    The Nicene Creed.

    "They" are not deciding who is or is not a Christian "They" are merely asserting the right as the forum hosts to decide who is eligible to use the Christian icon based on a certain criterion which is their right. If everyone who claims to be a Christian based on faith in Jesus alone were...
  19. Conor B

    Oh no! Where can I get a menorah??

    My reason is because Yeshua celebrated Hanukkah and anything He would do I strive to do also. “It was winter, and the Festival of the Dedication (Hanukkah) was being held in Jerusalem. Yeshua was walking in the Temple precincts, in Solomon's Portico. The Yehudim gathered round Him and...
  20. Conor B

    Latter-day Saints are Christian!

    I can accept Latter Day Saints as practicing a form of Christianity albeit one containing a lot of man made, non-Biblical, and sometimes outright heretical doctrines. The question that arises is how much error is too much? How many false teachings can one believe yet still be born again? I...