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  1. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    1) I don't see anywhere in that quote where the reader is directed to interpret Genesis in a literal fashion. 2) The things you declare to be heresy only qualify as heresy IF a literal interpretation of the bible is appropriate. You have not shown anything that would lead someone to believe...
  2. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Wow! You managed to get shut down with a single reply? Admitedly, I never expected anyone to say "oh, you're right, there's no basis for it".... but I expected at least some kind of minimal foundation for it. This is actually kind of amazing... since pretty much everything AV posts in the...
  3. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Hello again, AV! Have you decided to just avoid the questions I asked you? As I previously said, I would rather avoid these combative tangents and focus on the OP.
  4. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    I understand that, to many, the bible is the word of god. I also understand that there are times where the bible contains obvious analogies or metaphors. What I am asking of those who believe the bible should be interpretted literally, and specifically the story of creation, is why they think...
  5. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Clear soup is clear soup. Sugar water is sugar water. Water vapor is water vapor. Make sense? When you say something is like something else, you are using analogy and metaphor.
  6. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Oh, and I'm still waiting to see some kind of basis for interpretting the bible in a literal fashion.
  7. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    A is A. A is never B. Once A becomes B, it ceases to be A.
  8. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Thanks for responding, AV. I'd like to examine some of these responses a little further. I think I know what you're referring to, but I'm a tad confused. I was under the impression that the "rewards" of heaven were based on the rules and guidelines that god (or jesus) specifically laid out...
  9. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    Ok, so then what is the basis? What I mean is that when bible-literalists look at Genesis and see that god created adam by blowing the breath of life into a pile of dust... and they think that, because that's how it is stated in scripture, that that's exactly how it happened... what is the...
  10. J

    Biblical literalism and the story of creation

    This topic has been touched on a few times, but I don't think it has ever been fully-explored. I recently explored the topic in a PM convo with another member, but they really couldn't answer the question either. So I'm opening the floor. AV, you probably know that you're on my ignore list...
  11. J

    Is this the only game in town?

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong here... but I'm pretty sure that both the multiverse hypothesis and string theory simply focus on the nature of the universe, not the origin of it.
  12. J

    How Noah did it

    In the immortal words of John McClane... Welcome to the party, pal. ^_^ Unfortunately, we've seen this argument before. Most creos dismiss it by saying that some evolution does happen. They like to refer to it a "micro evolution" or "horizontal evolution". Bottom line, the idea is that...
  13. J

    What Evolution Is and Is Not:

    That's awesome! I'm going to start using that! Rep for you. ;):thumbsup:
  14. J

    What Evolution Is and Is Not:

    Wait, wait... I wanna give this a try. The past was different than now so the evidence would be different than we expect. Ummmm.... goddidit. Sure! goddidit. goddidit. [/LIST]goddidit. goddidit. goddidit. and.... goddidit. goddidit. goddidit. goddidit...
  15. J

    Dinosaurs & Creationism

    Once again, I couldn't have said it better myself. :thumbsup:
  16. J

    Dinosaurs & Creationism

    So the bible is literally correct, word for word, except when the bible is "rounding off"? :doh:
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    Dinosaurs & Creationism

    Science can make no assertions about the existence, nature, or power of a supernatural being that is not observable. The idea that science is "against" god, or that science tries to prove there is "no god", is nothing more than a persecution complex by people who don't understand what they are...
  18. J

    Dinosaurs & Creationism

    Yes, they're all lies. Everyone is against you. Nothing is real unless it was written down thousands of years ago, interpretted and misinterpretted, and reprinted in so many different fashions that no two versions are exactly alike. ^_^ There are not enough facepalms in the world to...
  19. J

    Dinosaurs & Creationism

    Psst.... men wrote the bible, men translated it, and men printed it for distribution. ;):doh:
  20. J

    What Evolution Is and Is Not:

    "Oops, my bad" might convey that message a little better. ;) :thumbsup: Regardless Hespera, you should probably just move past it. This is about as apologetic as anyone really gets around here. ;)^_^