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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    I don't know where the 8% thing came from, I have only heard someone else quote it, and at the time the impression I got was not that he meant only 8% of what we claim to be true is true and the rest is false, but that no theologian knows more than 8% of what God has revealed. In other words...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Correction, Calvin quoted church fathers when they agreed with scripture. We're not anti-theologians. We have many theologians of our own and recognize many past theologians, such as Augustine, as being helpful in expounding the scriptures. But no theologian is infallible. Augustine was very...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    You've got a lot of bad information from whatever Calvinists you're referring to. A lot of the people on this board are Presbyterians, and Presbyterians practice infant baptism. I, myself, was baptized as an infant. John Calvin did not believe in baptismal regeneration. Calvinists baptize...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Jesus referred to scripture as the word of God. Not only that but he did it while addressing the error the Pharisees made in placing tradition above the scriptures.Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Again, you see this principle all over the New Testament. Whenever Jesus or Paul or any of the other authors of the New Testament wanted to prove something, they did it scripturally. They did not refer to the past decisions and thoughts of the rabis, they referred to the scriptures. What did...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Ok, you'll have to forgive me if I used a bad example. I'm not familiar with the different councils. Was the filioque defined by a council? If not, then please supply me with an example of a Roman belief that you disagree with that was determined by a Roman council after the split with the...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    That doesn't explain on what authority you base your claim that Rome's councils are wrong. How can you, as an individual know that Nicene Creed shouldn't have the filioque?
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Total depravity. We (Calvinists) determine who's right by the authority of the Bible. My turn; I'm curious what authority you have to say your church councils are right and Rome's are wrong. How do you determine that?
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    When did I say everything a council has ever said is wrong? That'd be like accusing Jesus of saying murder isn't a sin because he disagreed with the Pharisees and they happened to say murder was a sin. If the council agrees with the Bible it's right, but the council isn't our source for...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    We read the Bible, which the actual prophets and apostles gave us, the people Jesus personally appointed to start his church. It's very easy to tell from the Bible that the Orthodox church and the Roman Catholic church teach things that are in direct opposition to what the apostles taught...
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    Why do Calvinists think THEY are the elect?

    Election isn't based on anything in man but is completely at the sovereign, free will of God. To say God would only elect Pelagians is to say God would keep everyone he elected from becoming Calvinists, since nothing about God's election has anything to do with anything about a person. To say...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    You're ignoring the phrase "in the flesh". God condemned sin in the flesh.
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Are you being honest? If you take a serious look at that verse, you really can't see how it says God condemned Jesus in his flesh for the sin of those who are in Jesus? What does "sin was condemned" even mean? It's meaningless the way you're trying to interpret it. To condemn is to punish...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Ok, I see what you're saying now, but that's not at all what the verse says. First let's get a definition of condemn. The first two definitions from dictionary.com are,1. to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure. 2. to pronounce to be guilty...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Let's do this one step at a time because I feel like I'm having a hard time getting a straight answer. Maybe it's some paradigm barrier. What does condemn mean?
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    What does Romans 8:3 mean when it says God condemned sin in the flesh?
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    Why did we need it? How does the death of God's Son and my king help me?
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    You still haven't explained what Christ's death has to do with anything. If Christ just came to heal, why did he have to die? Doctors heal people; they don't have to die to do it. You're able to talk all around the fact that Christ died without offering any sort of explanation for what...
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    Eastern Orthodoxy

    That doesn't answer my question. The example given is the example of a fireman who is burned trying to rescue a child, but firemen don't have to get burned to rescue children. Firemen can rescue children without getting burned. Is the position of the Orthodox Church that Christ could have...