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As a former Roman Catholic, I have of course (for me, anyway) read the Deutero-canonicals. I really liked Wisdom, but the rest doesn't ring my chimes spiritually, even Sirach is too worldly. I do approve of reading the selections in the lectionary. Helps keep the Fundamentalists away. Among...

True, but it's strange that it's so. I was very content and well fitted for 23 years in Roman Catholicism (particularly including my fifteen years there as a Catholic Charismatic), for eleven years as an Episcopalian (1992-2003), and my first eight years in ELCA. I'm not impossible to please...

Well, I have stated I was originally suspicious of the UMC as too liberal. (Parenthetically, the Free Methodists and the Wesleyans are too conservative out-of-sight.) After I became a Roman Catholic and left it, I was not inclined to join a church with no bishops (UMC has superintendents...

The best book on the general concept of religion and governance is Christ and Culture by H. Richard Niebuhr. He shows five types of relationships. Augustine represents a major type.

I have heard the four council position explained as complete adherence to the first four councils supplemented by all Christological clarifications from the Fifth through the Seventh. That of course means accepting (with reservations) the Seventh from 787 which the iconodules won as against the...

So on the one hand the UMC is the perfect local church for me to join that fits me exactly (and probably like me, more Charismatic than any Lutheran or Anglican alternatives).... But yes, now that I know the Methodists have adopted the censored Revised Common Lectionary, it won't be long until...

I have not had any Methodist affiliations for five decades, but it would still be a comfortable fit for me. My complaint (opposite to NALC) is that it's TOO convenient (I could walk there), doesn't stretch my theological juices at all. In the 1960's I was suspicious of mainline denominations...

You want to be my chauffeur for the 75-minute drive there to the NALC so I can be doing something productive on the way there (and back too!)?

I'm pretty happy with NALC, the North American Lutheran Church. It has the Augsburg Confession instead of the 39 Articles (thus free of Calvinism). I think it has the unexpurgated Revised Church Lectionary. The big negative is the Athanasian Creed, but it can be ignored as a medieval relic of...

The United Methodist Church (I found out today) is among the mainline churches that use the expurgated Revised Common Lectionary. I had been thinking recently I would wind up Methodist. What stops me is that that's where I started (before adult baptism as a Roman Catholic), and what are the...

Missouri Synod (or is it just WELS) still believes YEC, six-day Creation. Not so extreme, but not for me, they require the full 1580 Book of Concord, which brings in the unpleasant Athanasian Creed. Roman Catholic would be fine except I can't believe all that, left in 1992. Besides which I...

And it's why I'll be leaving ELCA soon, as soon as I find which denomination to join instead. (Everyone expects me to go Missouri Synod, but that's way too conservative for me.)

There are two subjects, however, of which the Revised Common Lectionary does seem remarkably shy. In the Epistles, there are seven passages affirming male headship (1 Cor 11:2-16; I Cor 14:33-36; Eph 122 The Revised Common Lectionary 5:21-24, 33; Col3:18; I Tim 2:8-15; Tit 2:5; I Pet 3:5-7)...

, nor There are two subjects, however, of which the Revised Common Lectionary does seem remarkably shy. In the Epistles, there are seven passages affirming male headship (1 Cor 11:2-16; I Cor 14:33-36; Eph 122 The Revised Common Lectionary 5:21-24, 33; Col3:18; I Tim 2:8-15; Tit 2:5; I Pet...

Here's an official list of denominations that use the Revised Common Lectionary: United States Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) Christian Fellowship of the Unitarian Universalist Association Christian Reformed Church in North America Episcopal Church Evangelical Lutheran Church in America...

From another website: The 1-year series was first created by Jerome, revised by Alcuin of York, and updated once or twice later. The 3-year series was created out of whole cloth at Vatican II. The RCL is based on V2’s 3-year series, and the LCMS uses its own 3 year series which is largely the...

When I got married in Germany in 1966, that was the way it was done. Two ceremonies, the second optional.

Thanks very much. Very informative. But now you've given me more reason why I have to leave ELCA. We're the bad guys?

I know nothing about the inner workings of ACNA, whence appears magically each Sunday's liturgy. As for why ACNA can't already have one published prayer book, there is one element (Reformed Episcopal Church) that has their old prayer book plus a recent switch to the 1662 English BCP...

My standards were always high, but not impossible. I refused to get baptized until I found a denomination that seemed reasonable. I got baptized as a Roman Catholic at age 27 in 1969. And it got even better. I was baptized in the Spirit as a Catholic Charismatic in 1977. In 1992 the Pedophile...