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Ahh, the comfort of an old standby. Which are humans? not humans?

The problem with getting your scientific information from a Creationist site is that they are WRONG. :) Evolution can involve loss. Not just the Gobblety gook about side chains, but entire genes: Comparative analysis of ribosomal proteins in complete genomes: an example of reductive...

OK. How about this: http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v6/i4/naturalselection.asp "You can change the gene frequency or the ratio of the genes that are already present as much as you like, but unless you add new genes you won’t get evolution." Except for : Comparative...

That wasn't an ad hominem, but an admonishment. An ad hominem would be "you are a stupid evo" :)

The theory states that a population will change due to natural selection i.e. environmental pressures. if something has no pressure exerted on it, it remains the same. AIG answersingenesis.com and (swallows pride and sighs) Drdino.com both state that speciation happened after noah beached his...

For superhyperkindization, or that they wouldn't exist due to the superhyper?

BTW "living Fossils" disprove creationism : 1. they shouldn't exist after superhyper kindization that creationists profess happened. 2.if no kindization happened, All living orgainisms should be living fossils. :)

A coelacanth or fir fosssilized and living does not disprove evolution. It only proves that something has become so specialized in its niche that it has no pressure to cause the population to evolve

please. SIX day special creation evidence. i'm all aquiver. heap it on us. *snaps out of sarcasm trance* really. I have yet to see six day special creation evidence. everyone claims they have it, yet when asked to give it, the place echos with the footfalls of wandering evolutionists...

Newlite- We don't want you to lose your faith. It is the interpretation of genesis as compared to the living world as God created it and as we observe it. To accept anything less than evolution is to call God a liar and charletan, since everything looks old and as if the animals evolved. Why...

no, but if someone writes a gospel 70 years after the crucifixion and the average life span was~ 40 years (+ or -), then we get some long lived eyewitnesses.

aacch! Don't think we are trying to prove anythings about the who or why of creation! We only do the HOW!

How could being kind, tolerant, patient and understanding, helping educate those who don't know as much, understanding logic and reason and being a true skeptic make a mod mad? :D

he will call both of you. he will get to you probably early next week. he runs the ARN and his show and has rental property, so he's a busy fella...

maybe one of you could stay a while :P

Sorry to mistake you... No, I actually tried to come in and just debate, but since he saw me here, he banned me automatically (if you check he cites forum rule one as his reason). i'm an agnostic, and like most athiests/agnostics here, usually polite to believers. only if they are polite to me...

yes.

but now you have a new name ;)

*holds nose* *glares at logic*

Debate format is available at infidelguy.com. The Topic is "evidence for evolution". be sure to mention that creation science has been falsified.