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  1. doulos_tou_kuriou

    How does the Church get around 1 Corinthians 6:9

    There just is not a good answer to this. In 2009 when the decision to allow practicing homosexuals to serve as pastors was voted on that vote narrowly passed, like literally within 3 votes. But that hardly itself indicates the situation in churches for several reasons: 1) many people who are...
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    Grew Up Lutheran - Married a Non-denominational Girl...

    When my wife and I first got married (she was not Lutheran), we regularly attended two church services on Sunday, one Lutheran and one that more closely reflected the type she was used to. Over time, she came to fall in love with the Lutheran liturgy and on her own chose to join the Lutheran...
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    Church boasting!!!

    I'm glad you both have found that. Welcome to our subforum.
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    Church clothes?

    I say be respectful in your dress and also not distracting in it. As a man for example I will not lie, it is very bothersome when women wear revealing clothes in how it draws my attention, particularly in ways I wish not be drawn (especially on Sunday morning). But in general I try not to be...
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    Rev. Elizabeth Eaton, Presiding Bishop Elect of ELCA!

    If I may be honest I am beyond thrilled about Eaton. I never really cared about her being a woman, rather I cared simply that she presented concerns I share and a boldly evangelical (I mean that word in its proper sense) theology. Once I heard her speak at the assembly (I admittedly had never...
  6. doulos_tou_kuriou

    The Reformed

    Reformed is an expression of Calvinism and best understood as those who subscribe to the Canons of Dort, where "Reformed Theology" (often summed up in TULIP) is really born in reference to the Arminian controversy. They are not simply Calvinist per se (though it is fair to call him their chief...
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    Differences between Lutheran and Episcopal

    If the churches of Scandinavia believe in AS in the same manner as the ECUSA, then there is a fundamental departure from Lutheran theology. Based even on Kalevalatar's words of AS as a visible sign expressing unity my guess is they don't. AS is not simply ordaining of bishops and ordination by...
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    Any one else having trouble?

    You are from an age group that is by and large missing in most Lutheran congregations. Part of this is a result of people gone at college, life in constant transition (even yourself being married - congrats by the way), and so forth makes this group mostly absent. Lutherans tend to worship in a...
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    New Sheep

    Welcome to the show ;)
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    confessional vs. non-confessional lutheranism

    the practical difference would ultimately be to what degree adherence to the Lutheran theological tradition (as understood in the documents of the book of Concord) matters in how one "does church" so to speak. How one understands for example the confessional position of the papacy as anti-Christ...
  11. doulos_tou_kuriou

    How does the Church get around 1 Corinthians 6:9

    How everyone gets by a verse is not up to me to say. But one issue I will note is how one translates that text you just quoted. The use of "homosexual" is not the best word to translate. For one, concepts of orientation were simply not around then. It also does not necessarily fit well with the...
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    What book of worship do you use?

    Lynn, you may no longer be looking, I know you asked some time ago, but if you or your son is still looking, I was at the Luther Seminary this week, and their bookstore (which they share with Augsburg Fortress still, although that will be ending in 2013) had some new copies of the LBW occasional...
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    Made lower than the angels...

    The decision of NRSV seems based on its decision to be gender neutral in relation to people. Since the text is quoting Psalm 8, you will notice Psalm 8 goes: "what are human beings [man] that you are mindful of them, mortals [son of man] that you care for them? Yet you have made them a little...
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    Is it really that bad?

    The ELCA has exceptionally liberal people, especially in leadership. ELCA pastors/synod leaders are statistically far more liberal than ELCA congregations/parishioners--which is far more evenly divided. Although the recent exodus of conservative members has shifted that statistic some. But in...
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    Looking for a church :)

    Ya know my brother was not particularly religious, so my guess is I'm gonna get a blank stare to this when I ask him, but he used to be stationed at Fort Riley a few years ago, so he just may. I'll ask him.
  16. doulos_tou_kuriou

    Can someone help me understand the split?

    If you stopped going to church in '89 that would have been right around the formation of the ELCA. So when you were going to church it was probably ALC/LCA (maybe ALEC). So it was not so much that they were not affiliated prior, but the ELCA did not exist and they would have been affiliated with...
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    Question on Women

    In the ELCA this is not so clear. Since the merger in the late 80's that formed the ELCA, the church has not had a clear doctrine of ministry. There never was a clear consensus on whether there was a single office (pastor) or a threefold (pastor, diakonate, episcopate). This issue sort of...
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    Luther's Anti-Semitism

    Just a few thoughts: 1) as much as the time helps us to place Luther's thought, we should not assume all thoughts of the time he shared. I'm not sure there is any evidence (I've certainly never seen any) that Luther sought to distinguish Jewish Christians from others or make them renounce their...
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    Luther's Anti-Semitism

    Thanks for the reply, I think there is truth in that what you say is that both concepts do affect flesh and blood people Absolutely. But I think the distinction is still rather important to make for several reasons: 1) The first is that Luther get ideologically tied all the time to Nazi...
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    Question on Adiaphora

    My first part is actually about expanding the topic, not off topic. It is in regards to the OP issue of belief and adiaphora. I was merely pointing out an area of much more relevance in terms I think of common occurrence in Lutheranism. As to the second, perhaps it was too much of a...