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Not to speak for him, but that doesnt answer the question...basically, you are saying that the Mormon Church violates the commandment by worshipping two different Gods...Socially my wife and I are one, we share bills, kids, house, ect...but you cannot (according to God) love my wife and I...

This is the first I have ever heard of this...I think you may want to check...

Really? Which do you NOT worship?

One last "off thread" response by me...you seem to repeatedly say the ECF's do not back the teachings of the Catholic Church, yet you site no examples...quote mine till your hearts content...I would love to discuss this in a different thread... Here you defend the Catholic Church's position on...

Where is that Church today?

Its called the Magisterium...the teaching authority of the Church...

Finally! This is what this thread is about...not the ECF's, not the Primacy of Peter or the Catholic Church. My main question is dealing with authority. Here is a controversial passage of Scripture (controversial only because it is highly debated) and one intrepretation. Where, Sunlover, do you...

I am missing your point?

"Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which has obtained mercy, through the majesty of the Mast High God the Father, and of Jesus Christ, His only-begotten Son; the Church which is sanctified and enlightened by the will of God, who farmed all things that are according to the...

Never mind...not trying to derail this thread any further...

The wink wasnt because I was 'fibbing' or 'joking'...I find it down right comical when people try to claim the Catholic Church was established with Constantine...that is why I love using writings of the ECF's pre-Constantine...like St. Clement of Rome, St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Justin Martyr...

St. John 16 promises that the Holy Spirit will come to guide us in all truth...not discord and disharmony. Christ established one Church, through St. Peter. The Catholic Church traces that authority (through the Popes) all the way back...now, if God selected Peter and Peter headed the Church...

Yes, what does it mean...

I am not talking about the power of God...I am talking about AUTHORITY!!! Do you baptise infants or not? Can Salvation be lost? Is Baptism necessary for Salvation? Is there a Hell? Is there a Heaven? Are there many levels to Heaven? Can you divorce? Can you remarry? The list goes on and...

Then intrepret this: Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphmies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit’."

Yet to have that happen...I am not intimidated easily, I have 2000 years of teaching and intrepretation behind me... ;)

Logic....

Because if you all claim to derive your authority from the same God, but have different (and confusing) teachings about everything (from baptism to the means of salvation) then either you are wrong or God means to confuse Christians by 'leading' them all in different directions...there HAS to be...

No, I havent read those threads (been gone for awhile) but I have read this.... "For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food...

Really? I see plenty of Scriptural support for both...Same as I see Scriptural support for the Holy Trinity and the Divinity of Christ...