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I take it you disagree or something. Who knows. That is not a godly response.

I thought that was self-evident... It is apoclyptic and prophecy -- all Scripture is of the Spirit of Prophecy, however. What are you getting at please.

Is that to me? I don't know who that is to... there are three sixes there and if the original Greek says "600 + 60 + 6" then that is still three sixes, albeit by tens. I was also talking about the symbolism of there being "three" "sixes". But, maybe that was not to me.

If that is to me, I really just want an explanation of that Chapter Seven from a Pre-Tribber... I can look it up and eventually may be forced to, but sometimes it helps to actually have a human there to tell you and answer whatever questions might come up.

Thanks. Yes, as long as you have noted the "second woe" has happened at Chapter Eleven and the "third woe" is yet to come -- as well as the Seventh Trumpet... I think there is some possible bearing there, though I am more inclined to consider the whole last part as being the third woe...

Okay, having looked at this, I do have issue with speaking of Israel being scattered. We know well that Israel has been scattered over the last Diaspora or Dispersion for this past some odd two millenium. If you have that in there someplace, then that would be different.

You mean it is more correct to say "Apocalypse" means "Revelation"... I think classifications are fine, however they are limited. If I had to classify Revelation using the two classes "Apoclyptic" and "prophecy" I would not have it either or: I would classify it as "Apocalyptic Prophecy".

I have to agree there. As a Christian who studied first the Bible, then the writings of the Saints through history first -- then I came into this doctrine. It was and is entirely absent from these older documents. This doesn't mean that God always tells everything to everyone at everytime...

Thanks, Barry. As for "with speed" the NIV version states: "3Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near." The KJV version: "3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear...

I take no offense, though I appreciate that poster's concern. I have replied to your question, regardless, explaining why I am confused at your question, largely.

Thank you.

"A type or class". The genre's for modern works: fiction, non-fiction, further romance, history, technical, and so forth I really do not see applying to the Bible. If I were to give a genre to Revelation, it would be, of course, a prophetic book, but really Revelation is in a class for...

Thanks, vinsight4u, I will look into these and get back to you.

I do think there is a problem when there is no evidence for such a doctrine, however maybe these people have evidence I am unaware of, to be fair. Where there is no evidence and the evidence is stronger against such a doctrine, such a doctrine is one that "pulls away" or is "divisive"...

I received a note on this from a poster that was concerned here where I was talking about "falling away" that I was merely talking about sinning. I am not talking about that kind of falling away. We all fall away and sin. I am talking about entirely falling away from the Gospel and the...

Just scanning through this, point 20 mentions the Great Tribulation. Yet, the Great Tribulation is mentioned in Chapter Seven of Revelation, while the time of the Beast is well after this. (It is after the seven seals and it is the third of three woes.) In Chapter Seven we see the...

What? Anyway, I can't interpret anything: I can hear out interpretations and consider possibilities, but ultimately it is God who explains such a thing as I noted right off in my post. God has explained many things to me, but there are some matters here which I have been kept in mystery on...

Okay, actually, I don't want to discuss unusual theories about the Millenium and such. So, if I cease to reply on such issues, that is that. I initially was thinking this was mainstream, but now I am thinking such doctrine is likely not mainstream: I had never seen it before, anyway, but I...

Actually, as this answers none of my questions... yet is the only attempt anyone made to answer any of them, I will make yet another reply to more of the content here. You stated, initially, ""There's a vast amount of Scripture on the pre-trib "laqach" of the congregation of the LORD, which is...

Absolutely no idea what it means except that 7 is a Holy number God often uses, and six is one beneath that. Being one beneath it, it is totally and completely not seven. Three is another number the Lord often uses. For there being three sixes, that would point to a kind of blasphemous...