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    Sunday law?

    Oh c'mon. Do you realize you just contradicted yourself? Did they cease or didn't they? You claim that the Apostles (who lived in the 1st century) celebrated Sunday; yet we are reading a 5th century account that says the Christians in two locations ceased observing Sabbath - which indicates the...
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    How can the two be the same?

    ~setting this thread to email me when replies are posted~
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    How can the two be the same?

    Ummm... the Clear Word isn't a translation nor does it claim to be - it's a paraphrase. In your zeal to defame SDA understandings you overlook the obvious and in doing so you lose integrity because strawman arguments are dishonorable. In the PREFACE it reads: "The Clear Word is not a...
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    Sunday law?

    But you neglect the first quote (by Socrates) that clearly says the churches at Rome and Alexandria CEASED their Sabbath observance. One has to be doing something in order to cease from doing it any further. I agree that 'as well as' indicates both days - that was not my contention. The point...
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    How can the two be the same?

    I don't use Bible Gateway - but thanks for the reference; I will check it out and bookmark it if I find it useful. Ummm... the word 'of' doesn't exist in Hebrew; that word is added so that the english translation flows. What the verse is saying is that Michael, THE Archangel (singular - Jude...
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    Sunday law?

    I fully agree! Thank you, DJConklin. :thumbsup: Presuming that text is referring to the mass is simply bad hermeneutics.
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    Sunday law?

    Umm... I think you may have trouble looking through preconceived notions. Either both of the above-quoted historians contradicted themselves or you aren't reading what they are actually saying. But I must admit that I do find it somewhat humorous that you happily disregard the many historical...
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    How can the two be the same?

    Ummm.... no. I think you may be confused into thinking that 'one' is translated as we would use it today. Here is the same verse using Young's Literal Translation: YLT: `And the head of the kingdom of Persia is standing over-against me twenty and one days, and lo, Michael, first of the chief...
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    Sunday law?

    Socrates Scholasticus (5th-century historian), wrote in A.D. 439: "Although almost all assemblies throughout the world celebrate the sacred mysteries on the Sabbath of every week, yet the Christians of Alexandria and at Rome, on account of some ancient tradition, have ceased to do this."...
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    How can the two be the same?

    I tend to think of it more as a theophany rather than 'type'. A couple other examples: 1) Josh. 5:13-15 - Jesus appearing as the "captain of the host of the Lord" (KJV) 2) Gen. 14:18 - Jesus appearing to Abram as an earthly priest I believe God is powerful enough to appear to man in any...
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    Do seventh day adventists eat meat?

    A point of rebuff: Was the meat that Christ ate injected with steroids or growth hormone? Were the cattle of that day fed the processed remains of other dead cows? Were any of the animals genetically altered in any way? These are wonderful reasons why eating even biblically clean meats should be...
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    A Note About Easter

    If I may pose a possible answer to this question (and not step on the toes of RND) :) : Remember in John 4:20-22 when Jesus is speaking to the Samaratian woman at the well: "20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21...
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    Walter Veith

    I completely agree on both of your points, RND. There are most certainly satanic conspiracies afoot & the Jesuits invaded the church and we are seeing the tangible evidences of that infection.
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    Introduce yourself if you are new to the Seventh-day Adventists section of CF.

    It is good to have you here! As I posted above, this forum is not as active as it once was but we can change that. I'm in school right now so I'll be busy during the summer session but afterwards I plan on posting here more. Glad to have you aboard and HAPPY SABBATH!
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    Introduce yourself if you are new to the Seventh-day Adventists section of CF.

    While our SDA forum is not as active as it once was, one can still find good information here and do some socializing. ;) It is good to have you here though! Maybe I'll put some new posts up that will spark some thought-provoking discussion soon. HAPPY SABBATH - PH
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    Rex84, FEMA executive order, concentration camps...:signs of the end?

    (Am impressed with all the former Baptists!) Though she wasn't baptised into the church, my wife could be called a former Baptist as well since her whole family is in the Baptist church and she was raised with those beliefs. (Sorry for the off-topic comment)
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    Introduce yourself if you are new to the Seventh-day Adventists section of CF.

    It truly does my heart good to hear of your decision to become SDA; I can tell you didn't make that decision without a great amount of study and prayer. We all glorify God when a new member comes to our fold. I will pray for you that the Lord continues to guide you in your studies and...
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    What should I read first?

    (emphasis mine) I think to say that "everyone" uses that bad approach to studying the Bible is painting with much too wide a brush. Sure, many DO do that - but there are also those who study with serious intent to learn what the Bible teaches in its entirety. If one of them comes to believe...
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    Hardships Ahead

    Good words of inspiration and inner peace. When we have such promises from our Savior to lean on the day, regardless of the clouds, seems brighter.