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That´s fine by me.

Evidence? For what? Are you posting random phrases?

Ask him.

No, it´s not worth it.

I haven´t denied it. I don´t recall it, and - yes - seeing the way you go about things here I neither rely on your memory nor on your ability to paraphrase correctly and contextually accurate. I asked you to produce a link to the conversation.

Yeah, he seems to be really happy with your assumptions about his views.

In the other thread you stated that a whole lot of atheists assert "Science is the only way of knowing". I doubted the accuracy of that claim, and asked you to produce a couple of quotes. You refused to and told me to search for them myself. I couldn´t find any. Then you referred me to this...

You mean the only thing you said about his views in your legnthy post #485 was that he was a naturalist? Yeah right.:doh:

Well, if you´re proven wrong you´re proven wrong. Don´t turn it into a personal attack on me. (And I guess when I ask you to actually find the quote you are ascribing to me in your first paragraph, you will also just tell me to search for it myself.)

As per the question in the OP, I tend towards believing in World1 (noGod, no afterlife). No need to add stuff (unless you are desperately trying to change your own topic). Btw. you haven´t answered my question: Where, when, how and by whom have your assumptions about EFMs "metaphysical...

"Have been verified"? Where, when, how, by whom?

Well, at least these are short and accurate statements - as opposed to your endless ramblings about positions that you assume us to hold.

There wasn´t a single vote "nonChristians-yes" at the point in time when I wrote my post. So my conclusion that there weren´t any "atheist-yes" votes isn´t even an assessment of data, it is a mere observation. Well, ok, I guess it takes sort of a syllogism to figure out that all atheists are...

The huge number of non-Christians who (according to the OP) postulate that "science is the only way of knowing" seem to have left the house.

It´s really amazing, what all you are able to conclude to be necessary consequences from "no God, no afterlife"!

I just don´t want to waste my time discussing straw men.

Ah, so we had a misunderstanding. I thought you asked which world I like better. As for the question "Which world is better": I don´t know how to answer it. You would have to give me criteria, values, etc. based on which you want me to consider your question (since you don´t want me to apply my...

...so your claim remains unsubstatiated.

I guess the two of you had a nice talk, then.

Creatio ex nihilo is an inherently theistic concept. Never heard an atheist saying that something came from nothing.