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    Messianic Art [open]

    Yes. Shimshon is very talented. I also liked the necklace that Zayit made. Very clever.
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    Messianic Art [open]

    Wags, You have a good eye for layout and composition. Very nice.
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    Did the apostles continue to participate in Judasim?

    You avoid confronting the facts supplied and then pridefully stand there as if you have proved something? Did Paul preach tithing- yes or no. Did Paul enforce circumcision- yes or no. Did Paul attend the Biblically appointed feasts as prescribed in the Torah-yes or no? Do you have any Biblical...
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    Thinking of going Messanic

    I believe that Christ was God in the flesh (confession of faith) and not a lesser God, or an agent of God, or a just good Torah observant man/rabbi. I have no problem with Jewish tradition. What troubles me is when someone tries to mix rabbinic/talmudic Judaism that was developed centuries after...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    Contra: Charles has done a fair job answering you. Hegg has done a fair job answering you. The scriptures speak of mantles, tzitzis, burial garments, priestly robes, street attire and all the rest- From an earlier post by Charles: Mantle — (1.) Heb. ˒addereth, a large...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    Contra stated: OK...so far we have tried to show you from scripture, history, and tradition that shawls were commonplace. You refuse to accept any of the above or even consider them. Charles has done a fair job answering you. Hegg has done a fair job answering you. The scriptures speak of...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    ContraMundum OK...so far we have tried to show you from scripture, history, and tradition that shawls were commonplace. You refuse to accept any of the above or even consider them….. I have considered all that you have said, but unfortunately you are trying to force a meaning of...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    Quote from Baraqemet: It blasphemes Christ and His finished work. Any other questions? Don't you read documents from history, or do you just get all your answers from the Bible? (Which is impossible.....hence the phenomenon of the Christian bookstore...you need outside...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    I fail to see the relevance. There's a lot of words and articles of clothing not mentioned in the scriptures. That doesn't mean they didn't exist. Whether it existed or not is irrelevant. Nowhere does it say that Jesus wore one. If it was that important for the believer, don’t you...
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    Did the apostles continue to participate in Judasim?

    Paul taught to give according to the heart, and not according to the Law, and that it was for the saints rather than for the priests. Paul taught that believers need not be circumcised to be acceptable, but the Jews could according to their custom: Paul instructed that Jesus, our...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    Charles, You always seem to defer to your feelings on a topic, and always have a lot of conjecture to add, but offer very little in the line of Scriptural proof for your assertions. Even your guy Tim Hegg agreed in his article that they were probably tzit tzit fastened to an existing garment. I...
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    Did the apostles continue to participate in Judasim?

    quote: Did Paul or the apostles sacrifice animals at the temple? Many cite an event recorded in the book of acts as proof of this. Let’s see what the scriptures say: Acts 21 23 Then do this, what we say to you: There are four men who have a vow on themselves; 24 taking these, be...
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    [OPEN] Why do men cover their heads with a Tallit when praying?

    Here is a quote from the Tim Hegg article that was linked. Page 6 of 12 “This garment the Tallit of the Talmud and modern Judaism, was spread as a sign of reverence over the head of a Jewish man when he prayed over a body in the grave. The purpose was that the person might...
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    Did the apostles continue to participate in Judasim?

    Not only is there no Scriptural proof that Paul or the Apostles sacrificed any animals at the temple, but there is Scriptural proof that Paul did not make the pilgrimage back to Jerusalem for the appointed feasts for a number of years.
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    I would have thought that the first thing any Christian should learn is just how one should understand the Bible. There are a number of viewpoints- yours is that "if the Bible doesn't say it, it shouldn't be practiced"...which I think is illogical and untenable. You can be a "Berean" all you...
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    Help:

    Although the CJB is filled with yiddishkeit that someone who was raised in an orthodox community might be familiar with, it is not that good of a translation as I demonstrated on another thread, because it sometimes only renders part of the thought of the original language text. Example: 1Ti...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    I see that you have taken another rabbinic talmudic teaching, and accepted it as truth. What does the Scriptures say? quote: Exodus 24 3 And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the ordinances: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the...
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    Did Jesus wear a prayer shawl (tallit)?

    Ah barquemet....you will never agree with me and I certainly will never agree with you- you approach this from the mind of a Protestant fundamentalist and I from a traditionalist. Whether we agree is irrelevent. What do the scriptures say?Protestant fundamentalist? Hardly. More like a...
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    [Open] The Tallit, Biblical - Fact or Fiction?

    Wags: Well since I'm just a "silly woman" I'm not sure I should bother to answer... That would be your call based on your own conscience. What does a particular (there is more than one) knotting pattern of the tzit tzit have to do with with whether or not a tallit type garment was worn...
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    [Open] The Tallit, Biblical - Fact or Fiction?

    Since the gematria of the knots (613) isn't Biblical, and since the color white isn't Biblical for the tzit tzit (God doesn't need rabbis to make decisions), and since there is no command to make a separate Holy piece of clothing, I would have to say that there are a few questionable points of...