I'm not ashamed, most offensive Christian movie?

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There's nothing wrong with making a movie about a tragedy, as long its handled tastefully. Now, I haven't seen this film, but judging by the trailer's insistence that Ms. Scott was "murdered for her faith in Jesus" (which isn't true), they're trying to spin Columbine into a "Christian persecution" message, while also likely also capitalizing upon the success of similar persecution films like 'God's Not Dead'.

It's pretty dishonest and exploitative, yes, but so are a lot of politically-oriented Christian films. I don't know about most offensive...every now and then I come across a low-budget Christian film which has the occasional antisemitic or sexist commentary or racial stereotypes or whatever. This is just further capitalization upon an urban legend which has persisted since 1999.

Also, it just looks like a bad film, and the acting looks particularly dreadful. I tend to give a lot of leniency to low-budget Christian films; I can look past low production quality or bad acting if it has a good story to tell or has a good message, but when I question the filmmakers' motives, I feel I can be a little harsher.
 
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There's nothing wrong with making a movie about a tragedy, as long its handled tastefully. Now, I haven't seen this film, but judging by the trailer's insistence that Ms. Scott was "murdered for her faith in Jesus" (which isn't true), they're trying to spin Columbine into a "Christian persecution" message, while also likely also capitalizing upon the success of similar persecution films like 'God's Not Dead'.

It's pretty dishonest and exploitative, yes, but so are a lot of politically-oriented Christian films. I don't know about most offensive...every now and then I come across a low-budget Christian film which has the occasional antisemitic or sexist commentary or racial stereotypes or whatever. This is just further capitalization upon an urban legend which has persisted since 1999.

Also, it just looks like a bad film, and the acting looks particularly dreadful. I tend to give a lot of leniency to low-budget Christian films; I can look past low production quality or bad acting if it has a good story to tell or has a good message, but when I question the filmmakers' motives, I feel I can be a little harsher.

I guss where it's really offensive to me is just, I never liked this kind of argument, and treating 1 girls death as special compared to the other 12 and such, you can sorta see political propaganda this is just explotive.
 
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I guss where it's really offensive to me is just, I never liked this kind of argument, and treating 1 girls death as special compared to the other 12 and such, you can sorta see political propaganda this is just explotive.

No, I absolutely agree, and unfortunately, such a thing seems to be a trend with Christian movies nowadays; the politics are overshadowing the Gospel.
 
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From what I heard, it was well done, but I haven't seen it yet. I did hear a long time ago that one of the people was asked if they were a Christian before being shot. I feel like the whole Columbine tragedy was demonically inspired (the enemy wants people to die apart from Christ, including Eric and Dylan, and to cause pain to God's children) so it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

A film I most disliked was God's Not Dead. Why?

- The pastor led a "salvation prayer" on the professor's deathbed that left out repentance.
- The pastor was very unspiritual, limp, and childish.
- The relationship with the girlfriend (who was worldly and controlling) was unbelievable, since the young man was supposedly strong in his faith.
- The student essentially argued for theistic evolution, which isn't biblical. He cited long age theologians by name (Lennox), which may hurt young people if they seek him out and are told it's okay to believe in millions of years.
- Jesus' name really isn't mentioned and the gospel isn't really shared.
- The young man never really helped his Chinese friend with anything except for maybe getting him to believe that there is a God (not enough to be saved).
- The student yelling at his teacher and speaking condescendingly to him is disrespectful.
- Besides all that, the dialog and everything seemed contived and unnatural and character development left room to be desired. It wasn't believable.

That being said, I realize that persecution is alive and well in colleges. I remember my experiences. It is important to be willing to speak up and to hold to the faith.

I prefer good evangelistic films like the ones made by Messenger Films (www.messengerfilms.com) - especially More Than Dreams, Sabina K., Undaunted: The Early Life of Josh McDowell, and Final Solution.
 
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From what I heard, it was well done, but I haven't seen it yet. I did hear a long time ago that one of the people was asked if they were a Christian before being shot. I feel like the whole Columbine tragedy was demonically inspired (the enemy wants people to die apart from Christ, including Eric and Dylan, and to cause pain to God's children) so it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

A film I most disliked was God's Not Dead. Why?

- The pastor led a "salvation prayer" on the professor's deathbed that left out repentance.
- The pastor was very unspiritual, limp, and childish.
- The relationship with the girlfriend (who was worldly and controlling) was unbelievable, since the young man was supposedly strong in his faith.
- The student essentially argued for theistic evolution, which isn't biblical. He cited long age theologians by name (Lennox), which may hurt young people if they seek him out and are told it's okay to believe in millions of years.
- Jesus' name really isn't mentioned and the gospel isn't really shared.
- The young man never really helped his Chinese friend with anything except for maybe getting him to believe that there is a God (not enough to be saved).
- The student yelling at his teacher and speaking condescendingly to him is disrespectful.
- Besides all that, the dialog and everything seemed contived and unnatural and character development left room to be desired. It wasn't believable.

That being said, I realize that persecution is alive and well in colleges. I remember my experiences. It is important to be willing to speak up and to hold to the faith.

I prefer good evangelistic films like the ones made by Messenger Films (www.messengerfilms.com) - especially More Than Dreams, Sabina K., Undaunted: The Early Life of Josh McDowell, and Final Solution.



I think you would like GODS NOT DEAD 2 as it is based on true to life real events. I enjoyed it and just recently bought it.
 
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Which true to life real events? Can you share a link please?


At the end of the movie there are about, maybe 18-24 different court cases the movie was based on.

The High School in California, Missouri, has been attacked by that well known anti-Christian legal groups, and has made a threat to make them stop prayers in school. This too will be overturned soon.
 
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At the end of the movie there are about, maybe 18-24 different court cases the movie was based on.

The High School in California, Missouri, has been attacked by that well known anti-Christian legal groups, and has made a threat to make them stop prayers in school. This too will be overturned soon.

How did it compare with God's Not Dead?

Because I didn't really like that one.

- I didn't like the prayer of "salvation" (no repentance).
- I didn't like the wimpy pastor.
- I didn't like that the Christian was disrespectful of his teacher when he started yelling at him.
- I didn't like that the Christian argued for theistic evolution.
- I didn't think the Christian's relationship was believable as a 3-year dating relationship since the girlfriend was so liberal and selfish compared to him.
- I didn't like that Jesus was never mentioned (as far as I can recall), especially to the Chinese student who was seeking.
 
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How did it compare with God's Not Dead?

Because I didn't really like that one.

- I didn't like the prayer of "salvation" (no repentance).
- I didn't like the wimpy pastor.
- I didn't like that the Christian was disrespectful of his teacher when he started yelling at him.
- I didn't like that the Christian argued for theistic evolution.
- I didn't think the Christian's relationship was believable as a 3-year dating relationship since the girlfriend was so liberal and selfish compared to him.
- I didn't like that Jesus was never mentioned (as far as I can recall), especially to the Chinese student who was seeking.


Ok.
 
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The last movie that I actually watched in a movie theatre was Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ". It offended me as the inappropriate contentography of violence. It was based on the "visions" of a sickly German nun, Catherine Emerich, two centuries ago. In many respects quite unbiblical as well.
 
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That and God Does Exist 2 (or whatever it's called) from a year or two ago. I suppose I don't have a problem with "defending" the faith from atheists, but it sometimes seems to me that to some Christians, Christianity is more of an agenda that a set of actual religious beliefs.
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A fairly large block of my fellow Christians have what could be called an entitlement mentality. For many centuries they have had things their own way and have controlled society to such an extent, that when minority groups started demanding and recieving rights that they had previously been denied, rights that Christians held all along, these same Christians felt threatened and claimed that they were being persecuted. Rights and freedoms are not part of a zero-sum game. Expanding them does not thereby reduce them for some other group. Extending the vote to women did not reduce the rights of men in society. In reality Christians have lost no rights and are not threatened in any meaningful way. In Canada and the USA Christians are certainly not being persecuted.
 
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A fairly large block of my fellow Christians have what could be called an entitlement mentality. For many centuries they have had things their own way and have controlled society to such an extent, that when minority groups started demanding and recieving rights that they had previously been denied, rights that Christians held all along, these same Christians felt threatened and claimed that they were being persecuted. Rights and freedoms are not part of a zero-sum game. Expanding them does not thereby reduce them for some other group. Extending the vote to women did not reduce the rights of men in society. In reality Christians have lost no rights and are not threatened in any meaningful way. In Canada and the USA Christians are certainly not being persecuted.

yeah, you can point to incidence, but that doesn't make it systemic, just like how many people Including CHristians get attacked for not wanting to say the pledge of aliegence doesn't mean it's law they can't and such heh.

Movies like this worry me due to the fact that I'm not sure how I would feel if my kid was inolved in this incident and someone wanted to make it all out to look like this was about some other girl.
 
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I know I'm really late in voicing my opinions on I Am Not Ashamed, but I just wanted to say that I saw the movie and, honestly... I really liked it? I mean, granted, I don't think that they should have made it seem as though Rachel was killed for her faith in Christ, but aside from that, this movie seemed to mostly be about a girl finding her road to God and bettering the lives around her as best as she could. Nothing wrong with that, I think.
 
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I saw the film at a sneak peak. I liked the film. I hated the Trailer, the marketing of the film in general, and the changes Pure Flix demanded be made to satisfy their misguided understanding of what a christian audience wants. This is a reasonably good film that was mismanaged by idiots.

This film is not about a girl that was killed because she was a Christian. it is a film about a girl trying desperately to understand her place with God and with the world, and struggling in the conflict between the two.
 
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