7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

Aman777

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Why not trillions?

Because Astronomers have dated the length of time necessary for Light to travel to Earth from the first Stars. Today is the 6th Day Gen 1:27 and the beginning of our Heaven/Universe was some 13.7 Billion years ago, on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 This shows that it was some 3 Days ago to God, which means that each of God's Days (periods of Labor) is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time, IF they were all of equal length, which they probably were not. Amen?
 
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Because Astronomers have dated the length of time necessary for Light to travel to Earth from the first Stars. Today is the 6th Day Gen 1:27 and the beginning of our Heaven/Universe was some 13.7 Billion years ago, on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 This shows that it was some 3 Days ago to God, which means that each of God's Days (periods of Labor) is some 4.5 Billion years in length, in man's time, IF they were all of equal length, which they probably were not. Amen?
You certainly have some very fanciful ideas. I'll stick with the plain, literal interpretation since it is embedded in the Ten Commandments.
 
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You certainly have some very fanciful ideas.
We all do--you included. Like all good religious stories, there is not just one right way to take the stories of Genesis.
I'll stick with the plain, literal interpretation...
Good for you. You're welcome to it. However that does not mean that yours is the only correct view of it, or that it is a necessary view for all Christians.
...since it is embedded in the Ten Commandments.
Since you bring it up, what is your explanation for the change in voicing in Exodus 20:11 which would ordinarily indicate a parenthetical insertion rather than the reported words of God himself?
 
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You certainly have some very fanciful ideas. I'll stick with the plain, literal interpretation since it is embedded in the Ten Commandments.

No problem so long as you don't try to show that your view is the literal provable Truth but is God's Truth, by Faith. Only the doubting Thomases of the last days, before Jesus returns, need to understand God's literal Truth, which AGREES in every way with EVERY discovery of Science and History. The lost will believe only IF they can see the provable Truth which will be discovered more and more as the end draws closer and closer. God Bless you

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 
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Look at you calling the kettle black.....superimposing a local flood over a world wide flood. Changing the language of Genesis forcing it to say whay it doesn't say.
I did not read this book first, and then decide to believe what I do. I found out about this book afterwards.


I did not make this up. I was not the first to see what I have learned from my personal study. I discovered that others had too. Here is something to study if you wish...
http://www.custance.org/Library/Volume9/index.html

It might be good to at least keep an open mind. The Word tells us that there are Treasures in Gods Word that are HIDDEN. Not simple and obvious.

Keep in mind when you read Colossians 2:3 that Jesus is the Word made flesh. (Jn 1:1 + 1:14) In the Word are HIDDEN truths that are not simple and obvious to the surface reader. They hidden treasures. HIDDEN.


Colossians 2:3

"In Him all the treasures of [divine] wisdom (comprehensive insight
into the ways and purposes of God) and [all the riches of spiritual]
knowledge and enlightenment are stored up and lie hidden."


We have been assigned to be on a treasure hunt. The precious gems and silver/gold are not obvious and on the surface to be seen. Its buried treasure. Hidden in God's Word. We have to dig if they are to be disclosed.
"In whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."



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Since you bring it up, what is your explanation for the change in voicing in Exodus 20:11 which would ordinarily indicate a parenthetical insertion rather than the reported words of God himself?
Another fanciful idea. You forget that the Ten Commandments were literally written with the finger of God and then recorded in the Torah. But they were physically in the Ark of the Covenant (Heb 9:4). So those are the words of God. Disbelieve them at your peril.
 
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Another fanciful idea. You forget that the Ten Commandments were literally written with the finger of God and then recorded in the Torah. But they were physically in the Ark of the Covenant (Heb 9:4). So those are the words of God. Disbelieve them at your peril.
But the grammatical construction of Exodus 20:11 would ordinarily indicate that the passage was not originally part of the Ten Commandments as written by the finger of God. How do you explain that? Do you have an explanation? Do you even understand the question?
 
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Amen. God the Trinity created both Adam and Eve at the same time on the present 6th Day. In fact, ALL of mankind lives and dies on the present 6th Day. SOME are "created in God's Image" but SOME are Not. Those who are NOT are the lost. To be created in God's Image is to be born again Spiritually in Christ. Amen?

Wrong.
Genesis 9:6 seems to disagree.
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.
 
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I did not read this book first, and then decide to believe what I do. I found out about this book afterwards.


I did not make this up. I was not the first to see what I have learned from my personal study. I discovered that others had too. Here is something to study if you wish...
http://www.custance.org/Library/Volume9/index.html

It might be good to at least keep an open mind. The Word tells us that there are Treasures in Gods Word that are HIDDEN. Not simple and obvious.

Keep in mind when you read Colossians 2:3 that Jesus is the Word made flesh. (Jn 1:1 + 1:14) In the Word are HIDDEN truths that are not simple and obvious to the surface reader. They hidden treasures. HIDDEN.


Colossians 2:3

"In Him all the treasures of [divine] wisdom (comprehensive insight
into the ways and purposes of God) and [all the riches of spiritual]
knowledge and enlightenment are stored up and lie hidden."


We have been assigned to be on a treasure hunt. The precious gems and silver/gold are not obvious and on the surface to be seen. Its buried treasure. Hidden in God's Word. We have to dig if they are to be disclosed.
"In whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."



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You sound Gnostic.
 
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Wrong.
Genesis 9:6 seems to disagree.
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.

Can you identify God's Image Scripturally? What or Who does man look like, Scripturally. Also notice that Gen 9 is not speaking of being "created" but of being "made" in God's Image. Being "created" in God's Image is another matter.
 
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why not creation in 144 hours?!, why must God delay the overall life's provision when He is the system Administrator of life for all the boundless universe?! - zillions of souls need it

Blessings
Because God is a righteous God.

I believe the first three days of the Creation are made in different dispensations, different universes, which are used to make our dispensation, this Universe. That gives us four dispensations, and curiously enough; the word, "dispensation," is written in the KJV Bible, four times: 1 Corinthians 9:17, Ephesians 1:10; Ephesians 3:2 and Colossians 1:25.
Oh, btw; I like calling the KJV Bible, the Kenneth Jesus Victory Bible, because we know the truth from the foundation of the world in a near-death experience, 4/10/72.
 
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Can you identify God's Image Scripturally? What or Who does man look like, Scripturally. Also notice that Gen 9 is not speaking of being "created" but of being "made" in God's Image. Being "created" in God's Image is another matter.

Get real. The bible isn't as complicated as you make.
 
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And, you sound like you have no rebuttal and do not know what you're talking about,,,,, (did that do any good?)

I am a pistic.... not a gnostic.

I was referring to your hidden treasure and bracketed so-called spiritual insight in your Col 2:3 post above.
 
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Get real. The bible isn't as complicated as you make.

Haven't you noticed that God, the Trinity creates, and the Lord God forms or makes? There is a reason but you don't seem to know what it is. I noticed that you also couldn't show us what God's Image is Scripturally. Do you want to know or do you prefer to just hand wave off things you don't believe?

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
 
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Get real. The bible isn't as complicated as you make.

Nor, dumbed down and over simplified as some of us want it to be... It takes a balance between simplicity (for the baby Christian) and sophisticated reasoning, with learning much Biblical knowledge for those who desire to fully mature.


2 Peter 3:16

Speaking of this as he does in all of his letters. There are some things in those [epistles of Paul]
that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their
own utter destruction, just as [they distort and misinterpret] the rest of the Scriptures.


Sadly.. There are those who will crave to cling to first grade spirituality all their spiritual lives (give me that old time religion). These ones resent the need that God will at some point impose on believers that will require denying self (feelings hurt) and taking up their cross (dying to their old concepts) in order to be humbled (or humiliated) when confronted with what appears to be contradictory realities. One must either choose to become a fool for Christ... Or , foolish, for failing to mature in Christ.

Was that simple enough for you? Its the only way to face what is needed to mature in Christ. If you get offended? Then read John 6:51-66. The Lord has no problem offending and turning off those who walk in self confidence and assurance. Its not all as simple as you assume it to be. If are ever to mature? You will be in for SHOCKS to your traditions. For, His ways are not your ways. Nor, are His thoughts, yours.

Isaiah 55:8

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord."


You will find Isaiah's words out experientially, if you are being guided by the Holy Spirit to grow in Christ. Rather than grow as religious souls do. To grow in finding ways to protect and guard cherished traditions that have been handed down by men who meant well. But, did not know what was needed to be correct. Only the truth will make you free. Traditions will only make one free to feel stubborn, closed minded, and feel good about themselves for being loyal to their traditional cause.

Grace and peace...
 
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I was referring to your hidden treasure and bracketed so-called spiritual insight in your Col 2:3 post above.

Show how that was gnostic? I do not even think you know what that means. If you did? It would have nothing to do with what I said... You did not even address the link I gave. You jump and accuse. Read what the link tells you!


Look at you calling the kettle black.....superimposing a local flood over a world wide flood. Changing the language of Genesis forcing it to say whay it doesn't say.
I did not read this book first, and then decide to believe what I do. I found out about this book afterwards.


I did not make this up. I was not the first to see what I have learned from my personal study. I discovered that others had too. Here is something to study if you wish...
http://www.custance.org/Library/Volume9/index.html




Colossians 2:3

"In Him all the treasures of [divine] wisdom (comprehensive insight
into the ways and purposes of God) and [all the riches of spiritual]
knowledge and enlightenment are stored up and lie hidden."


We have been assigned to be on a treasure hunt. Seek ye the Kingdom of God and His righteousness! SEEK! The precious gems and silver/gold are not obvious and on the surface to be seen. Its buried treasure. Hidden in God's Word. We have to dig if they are to be disclosed.


"In whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."

Jesus is the WORD.. Is He not? The WORD made flesh. The Word of God is the MIND of Christ. Treasures of God have been hidden in the Word and are there for those willing to dig deep. Not, treasures for the surface readers who wish to be stubbornly religious and traditional in the face of being refuted by the facts.



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Because God is a righteous God.

I believe the first three days of the Creation are made in different dispensations, different universes, which are used to make our dispensation, this Universe. That gives us four dispensations, and curiously enough; the word, "dispensation," is written in the KJV Bible, four times: 1 Corinthians 9:17, Ephesians 1:10; Ephesians 3:2 and Colossians 1:25.
Oh, btw; I like calling the KJV Bible, the Kenneth Jesus Victory Bible, because we know the truth from the foundation of the world in a near-death experience, 4/10/72.

and what does "righteous" mean?!, if you have babies/infants and they need food/milk, will you delay their feeding by thousands or millions of years?!

Blessings
 
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