Cruz Drops Out, Trump Almost Guaranteed GOP Nomination

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Every one thinks that Donald Trump is such an a hole .. Really, if you investigate his character, without listening to the mainstream media, he is a very generous and sensitive person to those he has worked with. you know when mainstream media reports stuff about famous celebrities, we all dismiss it cause we like them and know the media lie. Why can't we take that approach when reading media,,'reports' about Donald Trump?
 
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Every one thinks that Donald Trump is such an a hole .. Really, if you investigate his character, without listening to the mainstream media, he is a very generous and sensitive person to those he has worked with. you know when mainstream media reports stuff about famous celebrities, we all dismiss it cause we like them and know the media lie. Why can't we take that approach when reading media,,'reports' about Donald Trump?

Probably because it was taken straight from the horse's mouth? I mean, my previous few posts did just that. Nothing out of context.
 
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Not this woman. I want someone who'll put end end to Bans disasters administration. Stop letting MSM is just feeding you a storyline. Don't be so quick to believe it. 6 women here, were I work. All on the Trump train. Don't believe women and minorities aren't for him.
Reality check on what I assume you were saying was "Bam's disastrous administration." (My phone does weird things with spelling, too).

It just covers his first five years.

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Trump represents a repudiation of mainstream (and Tea Party) Republican ideas.

There are many Republicans, it seems, who are unhappy about the direction the country is taking and see their party as being a big part of the problem.

If these average Republican voters realize that Cruz and the Tea Party do not have their best interests at heart and actually support policies that will exacerbate income inequality and encourage big business' anti-worker policies, then a Trump nomination is almost worth it.

The Republican Party can still strike this cancer out of their party--and become the party of Rockefeller, Danforth, Javits, and other principled progressives once again.
But see, here's the thing...

If trump loses, the ideas are still there.

They don't care about income inequality or big business. They are concerned that political correctness and other progressive ideas will make America weak in the face of danger (terrorism). It's not their fault that the party that pretends to care also sucks up to corporations.

If Republicans got rid of him and "drafted" Romney again, you'd still bash him, hate him, and call him an evil minion of big businesses or some other dumb thing.

I don't like Trump either and I don't know if he can win, but in politics there tend to be reactions to everything. Reagan was a reaction to Carter. FDR was a reaction to Hoover. Obama was a reaction to Bush. trump is a reaction to Obama.
 
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Every one thinks that Donald Trump is such an a hole .. Really, if you investigate his character, without listening to the mainstream media, he is a very generous and sensitive person to those he has worked with. you know when mainstream media reports stuff about famous celebrities, we all dismiss it cause we like them and know the media lie. Why can't we take that approach when reading media,,'reports' about Donald Trump?

Trump doesn't need the media to distort his words because his words are controversial enough that the media don't have to distort them.
 
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They don't care about income inequality or big business. They are concerned that political correctness and other progressive ideas will make America weak in the face of danger (terrorism). It's not their fault that the party that pretends to care also sucks up to corporations.

To the contrary, I think that Trump supporters absolutely care about income inequality and big business.

They are people whose factories have closed and whose jobs have been outsourced.

Using a third grade vocabulary and hyperbolic absolutism, he tells them that their factories have closed because greedy corporations have moved their jobs to China. They are losing jobs in the U.S. because the Mexicans have come in illegally and taken their jobs.

He is speaking directly to their pain--and proposing solutions that are unworkable, unattainable, or more dangerous than the causes, but believe me, their pain doesn't have anything to do with political correctness and progressive ideas. Give me a break!

But what would happen if he slapped a 50% tariff on all imports? Several things:
  • prices on goods would go up significantly. This would hurt lower income people most.
  • other countries would retaliate by slapping taxes on our exports.
  • the inflationary effect would hurt everyone on fixed incomes--people on Social Security, pensions, veterans' benefits, etc.
  • the inflationary effect would depress the stock market.
  • The Chinese, who are heavily invested in the United States, would stop investing in the United States. It would be more difficult for the United States to sell its bonds. This could increase the interest rate the U.S. needs to finance its debts--and if you think we have budget deficits right now, you can't imagine what they'd be if we had to pay higher interest rates on them.

I'm not an economist, although I find the subject interesting. Since my husband is retired, we rely on investments and I try to keep up with Wall Street.

Wall Street is most fearful of Trump and Sanders. Why do you think that Wall Street is so fearful of a Trump victory? The stock market has gone down since he has become the presumptive nominee (although troubles in China, the country Trump wants to stick tariffs on, are a partial cause).

The short answer is that Trump proposes a simplistic, unrealistic solution with huge negative repercussions to laid-off factory workers and outsourced workers--and they deserve more than that. They deserve more respect. They deserve someone who doesn't talk down to them and deceive them.

I want to help them, too, but I understand that the real solutions are far more complex. For more information, read Robert Reich's books or check out his informational you-tube videos.

And for what it's worth, I don't think a Romney presidency would have been worse than a Trump presidency. I disliked Romney personally because he made his money closing factories and putting people out of work to manipulate the stock market. I disliked his ideas because tax cuts for the wealthy never "trickles down" to the less wealthy and increases our deficits.
I disliked him because he had no respect for the 47%.
 
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Sometimes he is an ass. But he is not racist or woman hating or this big ole ghoul people make him out to be.

Oh, he's definitely sexist, but not in the way Cruz is. I don't think Trump wants women to stop working and become nothing but uneducated baby-making machines. I do think this is a very substantial part of the Cruz fantasy.

I still think he's a terrible human being, though. The GOP is not my party but I'd much rather have seen Kasich or Bush snag the nomination.
 
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Every one thinks that Donald Trump is such an a hole .. Really, if you investigate his character, without listening to the mainstream media, he is a very generous and sensitive person to those he has worked with. you know when mainstream media reports stuff about famous celebrities, we all dismiss it cause we like them and know the media lie. Why can't we take that approach when reading media,,'reports' about Donald Trump?
I watched every season of the Apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice . If anyone can stream it, they should watch it to see that there was nothing about this man's character that is anything like what he has been accused of. The little wennie Republicans didn't know what to do with somebody who knew how to fight to win instead of making deals, playing their political games. He knows how to win and he has had black, white, spanish, gay, what ever on his show and no one has spoken ill of him and didn't want to not be on his show. If he was so god awful I hardly think some of these celebrities , like Geraldo would have broken down door to be on the show. He was nothing but respectful, he helped a lot of charities and he even bolstered some careers and made some careers. And it is absolute Bull that he is anything like what they say. These celebrities didn't have a problem in the world with him before this. He's been around for 30 years and now we are going to hear all this about him? Bull. It's MSM doing the bidding for the left.
 
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The point everyone needs to know is he went up against the Republicans and that whole corrupt machine with out making any deals and slaughtered them. The MSM and political machine was useless against him. It'll be useless against the no good Clinton machine too because they know only one way how to win, make corrupt deals.
 
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You think Trump would be a good president because he was okay on Celebrity Apprentice?

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Re read it. Nothing what I said is that.

Only ONE TIME! I will re say this, his character is not what it is being accused of being and if you'd watched it, you'd know. Don't misrepresent me ever again.
 
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We didn't move to another country for Obama. You'll be fine.
It's been a tough seven and a half years. Not that it hits me personally, but who would have predicted eight years ago that the Little Sisters of the Poor would have the weight of the government sitting on them? Who would have predicted that businesses would be destroyed by government for not going along with supposed marriages of two people of the same sex. Who would have predicted that the Caliphate would be reestablished? That we would be in a near state of war with Russia? That economic recovery would still be excluding me and those around me. Maybe I'll manage to be (sort of) fine, in my little enclave. But I am not proud, as I was in the past, to represent America as an American. If Trump acts like a narcissistic bully as president, I guess I've already had some experience with that, but at some point the sense of shame will get to be too much for me. I don't know what the limit is for me, for my wife either, but we're approaching it. At some point I become a refugee.
 
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I hope Trump doesn't make nice with the Republican party. We don't want business as usual. Republicans in Democratic clothes.
Trump is now bending over backwards to make nice with the Republican party. After a few days of that, after he really has an absolute lock on the convention, he will start his swing to the left. He knows that territory quite well after all.
 
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He knows how to win and he has had black, white, spanish, gay, what ever on his show and no one has spoken ill of him and didn't want to not be on his show.

Ah, but money is the great equalizer. Affluent celebrities can be on his show, and the people who were on it in the little I've seen wanted to help a charity or advance their own careers.

Since it was TV, Trump wanted to have a representative demographic--so that more people would watch. If it was all white men people of other genders and ethnicities might not have wanted to watch.
 
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The thing many don't get at all is that the future President Trump is not a politician like those idiots in DC and the idiots who ran against him, Trump is a business man and for some reason everyone wants him to be an ideologue, which thank the good Lord he is not. Trump is a nationalist just like President Eisenhower was this election is mirroring the 52 election people hated Ike but he won in a landslide making America great again.
 
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Wall Street is most fearful of Trump and Sanders. Why do you think that Wall Street is so fearful of a Trump victory?

Because he's not in their pocket. He doesn't need their money to run his campaign and is therefore not beholden to their interests.
 
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Ah, but money is the great equalizer. Affluent celebrities can be on his show, and the people who were on it in the little I've seen wanted to help a charity or advance their own careers.

Since it was TV, Trump wanted to have a representative demographic--so that more people would watch. If it was all white men people of other genders and ethnicities might not have wanted to watch.
Ah, but he was a perfect gentleman every second of every show. Now MSM and liberals are going to damage his character? Get over it. He knows how to win. He's not a punk, he fights back, he fights to win. Clay Akin is gay and Trump could have fired him but he almost won and Arsino Hall did win, a black man playing for AIDS. Yeah,he's a real biggot and racist. The last show, yep, a woman won. Lezza Gibson. Yeah, He's a real misogynistic. Elite liberals in Hollywood never had a problem with him except Rosie O'Donnell that no one cares about her anyway. All of a sudden now he's the devil? Bull.
 
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