Why do you believe in the trinity when God and his word is simple

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You are in your element aren't you? Ignore the plain words of Christ and try and theologise a belief from various verses of scripture to ignore the plainly written word. Still, if you accepted the plain and simple words of Christ you would be robbed of your favourite passtime!
Render unto ceaser what is ceasers and unto God what is God's

We should worship the father as the one true God and his son as our lord and saviour

Amen! The Father and Jesus Christ are worthy of our worship in Spirit and in truth!
 
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Jesus said the father sent him, not all three sent him. But I have every confidence in your ability to er somehow get round that!
You are right to affirm Jesus said those very words.
But it isn't it also true that to give oneself is much like sending oneself? Except to say, "I send myself" doesn't sound quite right but, "I give myself" does.
Did Jesus not give Himself?
 
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The fact that he was without spot or blemish both from his dna and his behavior. He was the perfect sacrifice. Why ask me a silly question?

I ask because the nature of the mercy seat matters.
 
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You are right to affirm Jesus said those very words.
But it isn't it also true that to give oneself is much like sending oneself? Except to say, "I send myself" doesn't sound quite right but, "I give myself" does.
Did Jesus not give Himself?
Previously addressed
 
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Christ speaking the words of God as the angel did from the bush.

Who is speaking when he said the father is greater than I, and the father is the only true God?

Don't you think you should believe him?

Begging the question.

I asked who is speaking in Isaiah 44:6. There are two attributes mention in that passage. Which one is the One True God?
 
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Begging the question.

I asked who is speaking in Isaiah 44:6. There are two attributes mention in that passage. Which one is the One True God?
Only the father according to Christ. Don't worry about two attributes, just accept the plain words of Christ when he walked Thi earth. Attributes don't matter then
 
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I have come to the conclusion these sites are a waste of time. The only rule in them for the would be scholar and theologian is:

I will never admit to error

Perhaps if you could point out Christians in the early church which shared your views and posted their arguments, it would help.

Also none of the non-Trinitarians have answered the "what does your Canon look like" question.
 
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Only the father according to Christ. Don't worry about two attributes, just accept the plain words of Christ when he walked Thi earth. Attributes don't matter then

Attributes matter.

For example Revelation 1 matched to Daniel 7 to Isaiah 44.
 
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Perhaps if you could point out Christians in the early church which shared your views and posted their arguments, it would help.

Also none of the non-Trinitarians have answered the "what does your Canon look like" question.
Will the apostle Paul do?
He said the christian has one God, the father, and one lord, Jesus Christ.
Perhaps you could point out christians in the early church who preached an equal trinity, lets say up to 120 AD
If I was on a computer I would gladly quote the second head of the christian church, and Dionysius.
However, the bible for me is the bottom line. I can quote Jesus and Paul
 
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Attributes matter.

For example Revelation 1 matched to Daniel 7 to Isaiah 44.
I guess if you just accepted the plain words of Jesus you would be robbed of all that theological studying and exegesis, perish the thought
 
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