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Not correct. EU is in fact a larger trading partner for China than the US
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China




Yes, China is the largest trading partner for the US, but the next 4 countries are Canada, Mexico, Japan and Germany. Thos 4 countries export twice as much to the US then China do

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html

Half of the worlds resources are sold to the US through various nations. Don't forget, Canada imports a lot of their raw materials, as does Mexico and Germany. Japan imports MOST of their industrial raw materials. China too. Those resources come from other nations.

Who our largest trading partners are doesn't tell the whole story.

On average, the US imports around $2.8 trillion (€2.4864 trillion) in goods each year. Tack on another half a trillion dollars in services.

According to the Europa site, the EU imports about €1.685 trillion worth of goods. It further reports that the nation which purchases most of the EU's goods is the US, with 18.3% of EU goods. (€311,035,000,000). And the US trades with almost the entire planet.
 
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Half of the worlds resources are sold to the US through various nations. .

No, it is not. Do you have statistics that prove this claim?

For instance, EU use a lot of resources themselves. You say that EU export 18.3 % of their production to the US. That means, if the US market fall away the will still have 71.7 % of their customers intact. There are also other nations with fairly big economies outside EU and the US (Japan, OPEC, etc.). There is no doubt that US is a major market for many businesses, but it is not the only important market. It is easy to overestimate the power of the US economy

According to this link the world's total GDP is 78 trillion USD. Total imports to the US is about 2 trillion. That means around 3 % of the world's GDP is imports to the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product
 
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No, it is not. Do you have statistics that prove this claim?

For instance, EU use a lot of resources themselves. You say that EU export 18.3 % of their production to the US. That means, if the US market fall away the will still have 71.7 % of their customers intact. There are also other nations with fairly big economies outside EU and the US (Japan, OPEC, etc.). There is no doubt that US is a major market for many businesses, but it is not the only important market. It is easy to overestimate the power of the US economy

According to this link the world's total GDP is 78 trillion USD. Total imports to the US is about 2 trillion. That means around 3 % of the world's GDP is imports to the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product

Never use wiki. Its a left wing propaganda site.

Just imagine if 18.3% of your economy disappears. How many jobs is that? What would that do to your economy as millions more people became unemployed and began to really tax financial resources? Spending on social programs would double? Triple? More?

I was wrong about one thing. The US consumes about 50% of the worlds energy. We consume about 30%-35% of the worlds resources.

In 1929, the US stock market crashed and it collapsed stock markets around the world. The financial collapse of 2007 began in the US. The markets today are more interconnected than ever. So, when the US stops buying, it slows markets around the world. When other markets slow, they purchase less as well, which slows economies even more. It wouldn't be just the 18.3% that disappeared. The economies of Greece, Spain, and others that are at risk in the EU would completely collapse.

Also, if the US ever said "enough was enough" and forced China to allow its currency to "float" on the currency exchange, China's economy would collapse like the pyramid scheme is it. Right now, the value of China's currency is "attached" to the US dollar. This also has the effect of devaluing US currency.

Also, if youre talking about GDP, the US (as of 2014), accounted for 28.1% of the world's economy. Think about that. We are only 5%-6% of the worlds population, but we account for more than 28% of world production.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp
 
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And the relevance of this to the topic - is exactly what? Your comment seems quite narrow minded, to be honest
Are you saying that since the Bible speaks about violence and sex, it is not possible that there are other sources for such things? Or are you saying that Christians should only speak about the Bible, and nothing else?

PS. I have read a lot in Moses and the prophets, but I do not often quote it when talking about international trade. Although there are som good principles there, which if followed would make this world a better one
No im just saying the US imports a lot of violent and sexual movies.

in nz we have censorship laws on what we allow to be broadcast in this country. And ratings for movies. Most of the violent and sexual content comes from hollywood. British films in contrast are less graphic. Bollywood films dont have violence like american films do.

US seems obssessed with horror flicks as a genre for example. And inappropriate content. So you can take from that what you want it to mean if you ruled the country, like the old kings did and want to obey God, well you wouldnt allow idolatry of that kind to corrupt your citizens.

In nz because of concerned christian parents, one of the big box retailers stopped selling R rated dvds. They took them all off the shelves. Good job I say.
 
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Remember King solomon, he only gained true wisdom after finding out all was vanity, and his downfall was marrying wives who worshipped other gods. He later repented, but it seemed like it was too late. The damage had been done. In the Bible, when the kings did evil in Gods sight most of the time, it was to do with idolatry. When the righteous kings ruled, they cut down the graven images and idol altars.
 
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No im just saying the US imports a lot of violent and sexual movies.

in nz we have censorship laws on what we allow to be broadcast in this country. And ratings for movies. Most of the violent and sexual content comes from hollywood. British films in contrast are less graphic. Bollywood films dont have violence like american films do.

US seems obssessed with horror flicks as a genre for example. And inappropriate content. So you can take from that what you want it to mean if you ruled the country, like the old kings did and want to obey God, well you wouldnt allow idolatry of that kind to corrupt your citizens.

In nz because of concerned christian parents, one of the big box retailers stopped selling R rated dvds. They took them all off the shelves. Good job I say.
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And you do realize that if there weren't a market for violent and sexual movies, they wouldn't import them at all.

So, don't suggest that we are somehow "forcing" the people of NZ to watch or buy those movies.
 
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No im just saying the US imports a lot of violent and sexual movies.
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My comment on relevance was not directed to you. I found your comment very meaningful

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And you do realize that if there weren't a market for violent and sexual movies, they wouldn't import them at all.

So, don't suggest that we are somehow "forcing" the people of NZ to watch or buy those movies.

I do not think Goodbook is saying the US "forces" anything upon NZ. However, you could argue that marketing of a product will increase the demand for the product. This also applies to products that are film of certain categories
 
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I would make NASA create a large ship. I would fill this ship with Republicans and Democrats and shoot them into space.

Then, even IF I were a terrible ruler, at least my legacy is a good one. Government is serious business, there is no room for parties. :|

Make all those after me, stand on their own merit, not the merit of a worthless broken system that doesn't care about benefiting the country nor its people outside the close nit "party" group.

The level of my corruption would pretty much end at never getting a speeding ticket ever again. Id slip it into one of those 90,000 page proposals that no one reads but everyone votes to pass it. :| "Toro, is above speeding tickets and charges of "reckless endangering" or any other moving violations. :D

Forget the whole 800 million car of secret service.

Id be rollin up in this beauty. :D

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My comment on relevance was not directed to you. I found your comment very meaningful



I do not think Goodbook is saying the US "forces" anything upon NZ. However, you could argue that marketing of a product will increase the demand for the product. This also applies to products that are film of certain categories

Marketing only increases demand for those who are weak minded. That's the reason children's television is full of commercials for toys and games. Children haven't yet learned to control themselves and their "wants", and so they want everything they see. By the time youre an adult, you should have learned some self-control.
 
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Marketing only increases demand for those who are weak minded. That's the reason children's television is full of commercials for toys and games. Children haven't yet learned to control themselves and their "wants", and so they want everything they see. By the time youre an adult, you should have learned some self-control.

Yes, I guess that's why companies spend billions on marketing towards adults, because it's not working
 
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Remember King solomon, he only gained true wisdom after finding out all was vanity, and his downfall was marrying wives who worshipped other gods. He later repented, but it seemed like it was too late. The damage had been done. In the Bible, when the kings did evil in Gods sight most of the time, it was to do with idolatry. When the righteous kings ruled, they cut down the graven images and idol altars.

The US idea of freedom of religion is much better than anything found in an ancient story which was never meant to be taken literally. I don't want the rich and powerful to determine how we should worship God.
 
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And you do realize that if there weren't a market for violent and sexual movies, they wouldn't import them at all.

So, don't suggest that we are somehow "forcing" the people of NZ to watch or buy those movies.

It is a fact that inappropriate content sales are higher in the Bible Belt than anywhere else in the Unites States.
 
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It doesn't work on me. Of course, I'm not gullible with the mind of a child.

Marketing works regardless of whether or not you realize it. Any company you have ever heard of has marketed to you, any company you've bought from has marketed to you.
 
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Marketing works regardless of whether or not you realize it. Any company you have ever heard of has marketed to you, any company you've bought from has marketed to you.

Anyone who pays money to a church has been the victim of marketing.
 
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I think the two party system came from the greeks? democracy?
In the bible, kingdoms always seemed to split into two, (the legs) if you think of the statue in Daniel. And then later, ten toes.
Power always starts off with one ruler in power, and its strong, then another, and another, getting weaker until you have toes made of a mix of iron and clay.

I see that in my own country, we initially had just one governor, then we had a two party govt, (FPP system) and then we got MMP and now there's about ten parties all jostling for power.

But Jesus, who is the rock, crushes or topples all these kingdoms as He is the cornerstone.
As Jesus is our King, and the bible says we are co-heirs ruling and reigning WITH him, I think He will listen to our judgments and whatever is wrong with life on earth and put it right. We are also to judge angels.
 
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I would tell them i'm an anarchist and that they ought not do evil to the world and unto others and then I would disband my government. oh and I would tell everyone that they believe in governments because they don't believe or know God.
 
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if there is anarchy then it opens the door wide for spiritual communities to replace the forced 'services' that government trys to do. for example - instead of socialism we would have christian charity.

you can't force people to love and that is why government is a very far away thing from the kingdom of heaven. the difference in the ruler-ship of God and his saints vs that of fallen and confused earthly authorities is huge. this world functions as best it can and so God has to met us where we are if he is to ever reach us to take us to where he is. many do not want to go for they lack faith and so I find a world of democracy in which the very best of things is mixed with the very worst, but it creates an interesting place to grow and develop.

worldly governments are a type of human creativity and it can be vastly improved upon but one of my main reasons to try to reject governments is because I don't like how so many people want safety and guarantees ( which are often just lies) rather than freedom.

being free is a very hard thing and being a 'slave' is easy. real criminals such a murderers are a concern which is why strong communities are crucial for a world of anarchy in which we live in the Spirit. being free means having much responsibility. I do not feel that governments help to create deep and authentic communities for I think that kind of thing can only be made by people who are living in the spirit and the truth.

the world feels like a bunch of games that humans made up to play and I think that too many have been caught up with games such as 'government'. but really life is so much more than that. I feel it should have minimal impact upon how and who we are. but I am aware of how hard it can be to find your life-purpose in a world of a great deal of happenings. the world is still quite a mysterious place to me really but I think things like music and art have a much greater importance in life than politics do.
 
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