Buddhism: Neither Theistic nor Atheistic
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Why not why? You say Buddhism needs to address origins. Maybe Buddhism is just being honest and not knowing everything instead of applying a bad myth like other religions do so they can be more 'complete', even if it's nonsense. Kinda like putting Monopoly money in your safe, just to say there is money in there, even if it's not really true.
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My point was that Buddhism provides meaning to the lives of millions of people without needing a Creator God.
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Buddhism is based on Siddhartha Gautama's experience of reality as it is. What need is there of a Creator God if matter can't be created or destroyed?
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I don't see why that's a problem The origin of human beings is Nature, just like the rest of the biosphere.
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That is fine. But that also makes the religion not complete.
Other religions do address the origin question. The theology may not be good, but the doctrine is there to be evaluated. There is nothing to be evaluated on this issue in Buddhism.
In a study, if there are only details without seeing the whole framework, it is not a complete study.
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We do not know if anything can not be created.
Energy can not be created is only a piece of high-school level scientific knowledge.
A deeper issue is time. Can or should time be created? Buddhism does have a sense of (linear) time. When did the time start according to Buddhism?
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Do you have any relevant scripture in Buddhism which describes something or some process like the Big Bang as we know it now?
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Do you mean evolution?
If you do, then does monkeys have any thought about the origin problem?
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Not only to me, but to any one who likes to see the whole picture from the beginning to the end. Only give a recycling circle is not good enough.
In Buddhism, the cyclic process is only a part of it. It does have a process which leads one to get into and to get out of the cycle. So, there should be a beginning and an end. The religion can not just address the end, without say something about the beginning.
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I don't believe that Buddhism talks about an end. They learn to experience the "now".
Yes, people "like" to see a bigger picture. I agree. That's mental conceptional stuff. But for anything spiritual, we don't "need" to see the whole picture. Which is what I understand you saying.
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I was looking more at life itSelf and not so much the process. People aren't separate from Nature. We are one and whole with it. We came from it, live and die in it.
With Monkeys being Buddhist and all, I suspect that they live more in the now than in the past with thought's about their origin.
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Buddhism says that the cycle of life has an end. That is the end.
You are right. Many (you, as one) do not need to see the whole picture of a doctrine. That is why there are many Buddhists. My argument here is such a religion is not complete and thus is not good.
In case any Buddhist asked about the origin of human, then there is no answer to that. It is not good.
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That is the basic concept of life evolution. If you have this idea, then you have to think about animals. They are part of the nature too. In some branches of Buddhism, human and animals have no major difference but are at different level of life. A person may live as a fish in his next life. But, this is confined to the situation within the reincarnation cycle. Eventually, the desire of human is to end the reincarnation and become a human-like being forever.
In all that, there is still no idea about the very beginning of a human life. So, for you, you should believe that you are, you must be, a reincarnation of something.
A scientific thought would be: since the human population increases through time, so there must be more animals reincarnated to human than the opposite way. If so, what does the situation mean?
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I don't see how it's not complete, or that it's not good. Science provides those answers to the question your posing. Buddhism is not about doctrines.
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